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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Christine, <o:p>
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I heard this argument re; the student potentially changing a syllabus to suit their needs but, honestly, they can do that with a PDF of a syllabus too. They just need Adobe Pro. For that matter, they could simply create their own syllabus document and submit
it. There’s no certification or seal that shows a syllabus is genuine. Also, our departments retain copies of their official syllabi so, should another college ever check, the student would be caught.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">I teach my faculty to make them accessible in Word and strongly suggest that’s how they share them with their students. Some fret about the formatting being altered in Word depending on what/how
it’s opened so prefer PDF. In that case, I ask that they post both versions in their class.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Students will always be one step ahead of us in the cheating arena…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Amy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:13.2pt"><b><span style="color:#00685E">Amy Rovner, MPH RD</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><br>
Instructional Designer/Accessible IT Coordinator<br>
eLearning Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:13.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Shoreline Community College</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><br>
<a href="http://www.shoreline.edu/">www.shoreline.edu</a> | 206.546.6937<br>
eLearning Office: 206.546.6966<br>
Pronouns: she, her, hers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:13.2pt"><a href="https://shoreline.edu/"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#B13E3A;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="100" height="77" style="width:1.0416in;height:.802in" id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://www.shoreline.edu/communications-marketing/identity-guidelines/images/email-logo100.png" alt="Shoreline Community College"></span></b></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="https://elearning.shoreline.edu/hc/en-us">eLearning Service Help Center</a></span><u><span style="color:#0563C1"><o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Faculty Canvas <a href="https://cases.canvaslms.com/apex/liveagentchat">
24/7 Help via Chat</a></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Faculty Canvas 24/7 Phone Help: 1-888-672-2040<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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24/7 Help via Chat</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.shoreline.edu/apply-and-aid/learning-support-centers/business-computer-software.aspx">Drop in help with basic computing</a></span><u><span style="color:#0563C1"><o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 12, 2019 8:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Question about Read-Only Word docs vs. PDFs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We are not the copyright police. Also, we are not the ethics police.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If a college takes the word of a student without verifying that the information is correct, that is not on us.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Will some students try to cheat the system? Sure. Will some students follow the rules? Absolutely.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not our problem, one way or the other, really. Also, writing a syllabus in Word, then saving as PDF with the right options selected makes a pretty good and accessible PDF for any student to use. I wouldn’t
fight this battle too hard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Susan Kelmer<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Alternate Format Production Program Manager<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">University of Colorado Boulder<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">303-735-4836<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christine Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 12, 2019 9:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Question about Read-Only Word docs vs. PDFs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Hi all -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">For a couple of years now, we’ve been training our faculty members to make their syllabi accessible, and that has included the recommendation to distribute the documents as
Read-Only Word files instead of converting them into PDF. (Granted, it would be better if they would put the content on a course web page, but that isn’t something we can do at this point. We’ve also been focusing on Word documents as a first step, since PDFs
take a little more work to make accessible.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">There is usually some pushback to the idea of not converting syllabi to PDF, because faculty are concerned about students trying to change content. Up until now, they’ve been
satisfied when they consider that it would be silly for a student to change something in a syllabus - late work policy, attendance, etc. - and try to convince the prof it’s what he or she wrote.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">This morning someone pointed out that when students transfer schools and want credit for upper division courses (those which don’t automatically transfer), they need a syllabus
to show the class is similar enough to the new institution’s. If they can get access to the new institution’s syllabus, they could alter syllabi to match. Obviously they could do this with most PDFs as well, but it would take more work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Any advice about this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#007048">Christine Robinson</span></b><span style="color:#007048">
</span><span style="color:black">| Technical Trainer/Writer | Center for Teaching Excellence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#007048">Georgia Gwinnett College</span></b><span style="color:black"> | 1000 University Center Lane| Lawrenceville, GA 30043<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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