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<p class="MsoNormal">I was trying to open an EPUB on my Mac using Kurzweil and was
<i>shocked</i> at the fact that Epub wasn’t supported on the mac version at all. I thought I was missing something and contacted support, who told me they did not have support for epub and that developers would take it under consideration…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Honestly there’s no excuse for not supporting such a widely used format in reading software. At least half of my students are using Mac these days. I’m a big geek, so I’m solving that issue by using the Windows version on my Mac which I
use for grad classes (using parallels desktop), and it works so much better… Of course, that’s not a great solution for everyone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Neal Sorensen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">(pronouns: he, him, his)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#660066">Accessibility Resources
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Minnesota State University, Mankato<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">132 Memorial Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Mankato, MN 56001<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Phone: (507) 389-5242<br>
Fax: (507) 389-1199</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>George Kerscher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXT] ePub file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Susan,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Very interesting! Perhaps you and others could let Kurzweil know that lack of support for EPUB is influencing your decision to renew. Money talks!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Best<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">George<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXT] ePub file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">George, I have talked with both the Texthelp people and Kurzweil. Read & Write will read an epub and gives passable navigation through a side tree, so it isn’t awful. But Kurzweil just really doesn’t offer
much, and that is a frustration. We are currently a Kurzweil campus, but are discussion a move to Texthelp.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">-Susan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>George Kerscher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXT] ePub file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Last CSUN some of us advocating EPUB met with Kurzweil and TextHelp folks. TextHelp said their EPUB reader was outdated and needs a refresh. The Kurzweil folks said they really needed to take a closer look at the EPUB Standard, because
so much of new publications have no PDF version.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">IMO we should be encouraging these companies to get on with providing EPUB support. When they upgrade their systems, the landscape will completely change. The reason the blindness community is happy with EPUB is because screen readers
work with mainstream software and do not try to replace it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps the universities that are Kurzweil shops could be our loudest voice asking for support for EPUB. Wow, imagine students just being able to read the Born Accessible EPUB; we could get on with providing other supports like tactile
graphics. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">George<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXT] ePub file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think the point I was making pre-coffee is that ePubs don’t have a standard reader that can be used, and not all of the technology we provide know what to do with an ePub.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would love to see us somehow, some way bridge that gap of being able to give a student an ePub and they are able to read it and listen to it with the technology they are already comfortable with, rather than
insisting that the student download and install yet another piece of software in order to hear their ePub read out loud. There are a million ePub readers out there, but which one do we recommend for a student who needs TTS? Which one will work with standard
technology that is on most campuses – Kurzweil and Read & Write – without a fuss or having to convert something or change something?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">One of the reasons we go to PDF so often with these things is because Kurzweil and Read & Write know exactly what to do with a PDF, and the student already knows how to use those programs, so it’s the shortest,
fastest route to getting them their reading materials. ePubs are still like the wild wild west…there is no one streamlined way to use them effectively across the different technologies we may encounter. It’s messy and it takes away time from what students
need to be doing – reading and studying.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Susan Kelmer<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Alternate Format Production Program Manager<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">University of Colorado Boulder<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">303-735-4836<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Beach<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXT] ePub file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I understand this. I was simply addressing the point that epubs do not “need” to be broken for navigation if that is the only purpose. Navigation is built in. However, there may be other reasons for converting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Robert Lee Beach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Assistive Technology Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kansas City Kansas Community College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">7250 State Avenue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kansas City, KS 66112<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Phone: 913-288-7671<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Email: <a href="mailto:rbeach@kckcc.edu">
rbeach@kckcc.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXT] ePub file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Robert. It does depend on what the student’s preferences are, too. Most of my students don’t want an ePub, they want something different. I find blind students are happy with ePubs, while sighted students
do not like them at all. They prefer something that comes to them separated by chapters that they can use with their technology, so that’s mainly what we provide for them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Susan Kelmer<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Alternate Format Production Program Manager<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">University of Colorado Boulder<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D">303-735-4836<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Beach<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 6:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXT] ePub file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">There really is no reason to break the epub out since it will have navigation capabilities already in place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Robert Lee Beach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Assistive Technology Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kansas City Kansas Community College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">7250 State Avenue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kansas City, KS 66112<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Phone: 913-288-7671<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Email: <a href="mailto:rbeach@kckcc.edu">
rbeach@kckcc.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kluesner, Bryon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT][Athen] ePub file<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I received an ePub file from Macmillan this afternoon. Can it be broken into chapters for easier navigability or saved into a PDF file? I did message the publisher on Access Text to see if they had a PDF file available.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bryon<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATACP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Adaptive Technology Coordinator<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Disability Resource Center<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">University of Tennessee at Chattanooga<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chattanooga, TN 37403<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">423-425-5251<o:p></o:p></p>
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Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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