<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi, Leyna!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This particular problem has likewise aggravated me for the past few years. When Livescribe first introduced the Sky WiFi, then Livescribe 3 pens (which didn’t use the jump and playback speed page controls), they labeled their notebooks as having either "Echo controls" or "Livescribe 3 controls". Unfortunately, they no longer indicate this in their website store or Amazon listings so you can’t tell what you’re getting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Their full size <i class=""><u class="">3-subject</u></i> notebooks still had the full set of Echo controls as of 2 years ago; I don’t know if that’s still the case.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Livescribe also used to sell credit-card-sized Calculator and Control cards, but these are no longer available either:</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.bestbuy.com/site/livescribe-livescribe-quick-control-calculator-cards/1054547.p?skuId=1054547" class="">https://www.bestbuy.com/site/livescribe-livescribe-quick-control-calculator-cards/1054547.p?skuId=1054547</a></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.livescribe.com/en-us/media/pdf/store/APP-30306/CalculatorApp.pdf" class="">https://www.livescribe.com/en-us/media/pdf/store/APP-30306/CalculatorApp.pdf</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As Kevin mentioned, Livescribe does include a bookmark with their notebooks that have *most* of the old controls — ironically, it’s missing the jump forward/jump back control, arguably the one that is most used. You can also download and print out that bookmark here (print full size using a 600 dpi or better laser printer):</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.livescribe.com/en-us/media/pdf/support/LS3_PYON_Bookmark.pdf" class="">https://www.livescribe.com/en-us/media/pdf/support/LS3_PYON_Bookmark.pdf</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To have the full range of Echo page controls regardless of LS notebook used, I’ve taken to doing any of the following for myself and my students:</div><div class=""><ul class=""><li class="">Tear out one page from an older LS notebook with all the controls; slip it in a page protector and keep it at my most recently used page as a bookmark</li><li class="">Cut off the bottom section of an older LS notebook page and laminate it as a bookmark</li><li class="">Cut off the bottom section of a journal-sized (A5) LS notebook page and laminate it as a bookmark</li><ul class=""><li class="">The smaller A5 notebooks still have the full set of page controls, albeit split between front and back of page</li></ul><li class="">Print out a single page of printable Livescribe dot paper to use in a page protector, or cut off and laminate the bottom strip as a bookmark</li><ul class=""><li class="">"Print Your Own Livescribe Notebooks": <a href="https://www.livescribe.com/en-us/support/wifi-smartpen/howto/print_dot_paper.html" class="">https://www.livescribe.com/en-us/support/wifi-smartpen/howto/print_dot_paper.html</a></li><li class="">Quick Controls Sheets (printable bookmark) also available from this webpage</li></ul></ul><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">This old pen has a built-in microphone and camera so its an all in one device. Their newer pens must be used in conjunction with a smartphone or laptop or an iPad. This makes it more complicated for the students. They have to have enough memory on their phones and deal with batteries and such for two devices instead of one. </div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">I fully agree with your reasoning. The need to ensure a paired Bluetooth connection further complicates matters for students using a Livescribe 3 or Aegir — more parts and more possible things that can go wrong for students who are already struggling with other aspects of learning.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If any of you loan out this pen, I’d appreciate you joining me in asking Livescribe to continue making the old notebooks since they are still making the pens!</div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">I’d be happy to add my name or voice to any such request made to Livescribe.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class=""> Shelley</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have been loaning Livescribe Echo smart pens to students for years. They have worked well for us. Recently, it has been hard to come by the notebooks that work well with the Echo pen. The newer notebooks don’t have all the commands
on each page so the students can’t take advantage of slowing down the pace when playing back and jumping back 5 seconds, etc. I finally reached someone at a warehouse who found sample notebooks (full sized) and sold us 100. That will hold us for the next
year or two, I hope. Livescribe is no longer making these older style notebooks from what I understand.
<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">If any of you loan out this pen, I’d appreciate you joining me in asking Livescribe to continue making the old notebooks since they are still making the pens! This old pen has a built-in microphone and camera so its an all in one device.
Their newer pens must be used in conjunction with a smartphone or laptop or an iPad. This makes it more complicated for the students. They have to have enough memory on their phones and deal with batteries and such for two devices instead of one.
<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am caving to the pressure and bought two new Aegir pens to see how they will do. However, I have 43 Echo pens and I hate to give them up just because Livescribe isn’t making the old notebooks. I did also receive some bookmarks with
most of the commands on them. Its still not as convenient. <o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Please let me know if you have another solution. <o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">Leyna Bencomo
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">Assistive Technology Specialist<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">Office of Information Technology<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">University of Colorado Colorado Springs<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway, EPC 215<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">Colorado Springs, CO 80918<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">(719) 255-4202 /
<a href="mailto:lbencomo@uccs.edu" class="">lbencomo@uccs.edu</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class=""><a href="http://www.uccs.edu/~it/" class="">http://www.uccs.edu/~it/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class=""><span id="cid:image001.png@01D56F99.DDDA7A60"><image001.png></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" class="">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Matson, Eric (<a href="mailto:ecmatson@uidaho.edu" class="">ecmatson@uidaho.edu</a>)<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, August 31, 2018 9:39 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" class="">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> [Athen] Live Scribe 3 Smart Pens<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all, <o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">New to the list, so I apologize if this topic has already been covered. I currently have students waiting for a smart pen as a note taking accommodation. We have been using the Live Scribe Echo, but when I went to buy more yesterday, every
place is sold out. The students have already been waiting for two weeks, thanks to an Amazon shipping error that’s looking more and more like will end up being refunded. With all that in mind I started looking into the Live Scribe 3, but have some concerns,
so was wondering if anyone has used that model?<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">My main concern is the 3 doesn’t have a built in mic, so the student would have to use their phone to record audio. Looking at reviews, the app that goes with the pen is a battery hog, so I’m worried about students having enough phone charge
to get through back to back lectures. We could include that access to power as part of their accommodation, but that doesn’t change the fact that the student then has to make sure they have their phone and charger at all times.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any input!<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">Center for Disability Access and Resources<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">Division of Student Affairs<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">The University of Idaho<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">Phone: 208.885.6307 | <a href="mailto:ecmatson@uidaho.edu|" class="">
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