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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’m not sure what she meant either, but I know I’ve used NVDA with intentionally turning automatic numbering on and it read them fine. I remember one JAWS version
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I know both programs are working directly with word’s document object model so it could be Word weirdness as well. I’m using Word 2016 and when I had the problem
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Spangler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 18, 2019 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Nasty NVDA bug<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What's the view port? Sorry but I am having trouble understanding your message.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:36 PM Lucy GRECO <<a href="mailto:lgreco@berkeley.edu">lgreco@berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">hello: i don't think this is an nvda bug er say i think its a word bug and the numbers not showing up is a problem with wair the view port is for the numbers
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Lucia Greco<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:58 AM Robert Spangler <<a href="mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu" target="_blank">rspangler1@udayton.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So to clarify, are you saying that if I use the automatic list feature, NVDA won't read the numbers that are automatically inserted upon pressing enter? That's strange, because mine does. I am on the latest version. I just did a simple
test, though; I didn't use paragraphs and numbers with parentheses. I would recommend filing this bug with NVAccess so they can fix it. Thanks for letting us know!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:42 PM Deborah Armstrong <<a href="mailto:armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu" target="_blank">armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Don’t know if this has always been the case or is just a problem with the current version, but I wanted to share it with anyone helping students.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I was typing something in Word this morning and using NVDA. My document had numbers in the margins in parenthesis, but not every paragraph had numbers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Word started automatically inserting numbers (I thought I had that pesky “feature” turned off), but NVDA didn’t speak nor show those numbers on my Braille display.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">When I printed it a co-worker noticed all the extra numbers including a final page with numbers running down the left margin with no text.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">When I went back to review the document with JAWS, all the numbers “appeared” but looking at it again with NVDA, only the numbers I’d deliberately typed were displayed – none of
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This is a warning to anyone who takes an exam in word with NVDA, since if you are adding fill in the blanks, and the instructor has numbered the questions, simply pressing enter
could add more numbers which would be invisible to NVDA! Auto-numbering which is unfortunately on by default can throw off the numbering of any exam as well, so I hope people turn it off when the student taking the test is a newbie!<o:p></o:p></p>
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