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is common practice in the publishing industry for authors to forgo royalties that are generated through the sale of books manufactured in specialized formats for the blind</b>....” Appellants' Br. 34. “[T]he number of accessible books currently available to
the blind for borrowing is a mere few hundred thousand titles, a minute percentage of the world's books. In contrast, the HDL contains more than ten million accessible volumes.” J.A. 173 ¶ 10 (Maurer Decl.). When considering the 1976 Act, Congress was well
aware of this problem. The House Committee Report observed that publishers did not “usually ma[ke]” their books available in specialized formats for the blind.
</span><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family: 'Times'; color: rgb(0.000000%, 0.000000%, 100.000000%)" class="">H.R. REP. NO. 94–1476</span><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family: 'Times'" class="">, at 73, 1976 U.S.C.C.A.N. at 5686. That
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<div class="">On Jan 17, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Susan Kelmer <<a href="mailto:Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu" class="">Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I have read the white paper. It made some interesting points, but it has not convinced me, or my legal counsel, that we should be giving away files to students
who have not obtained some form of the book – new, used, rental, digital download (aka Kindle/Nook), etc.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">If it was found out by non-disabled students that disabled students were getting their textbook materials for free, we would have an absolute RIOT on our hands,
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Also, I am an author. It pains me GREATLY to think that books that are written using blood, sweat, tears, AND MY TIME are just blithely given away to those with
a disability, with no guilt or even thought to what that means. Authors are people too, and they are not writing for grins and giggles – they are writing because it is how they make their living. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Giving away files is no different in my mind than illegal file sharing of music, movies, etc. In fact, it IS illegal in my mind, as it brashly abuses copyright
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">We are going to have to agree to disagree on this issue. I’ve been doing this work for 20 years and not one single time have I felt it was appropriate to give
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With all due respect to Susan and Wink, the claim that purchase is required by copyright law has no basis in copyright law. I am a copyright lawyer and one of the authors of the white paper, which was based in part on a convening of copyright experts, including
lawyers from the University Counsels’ offices at UVA and the University of Michigan, the counsel to the Internet Archive, counsel to the Association of Research Libraries, and my friend Blake Reid, who is a professor at CU's law school and the Director of
the IP Policy Clinic there. (The full list is in the Acknowledgments section of the paper.) I’m sure Blake would be happy to talk to you about the project if you have questions, Susan. He’s an expert in both disability law and copyright law.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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I can also assure you that the analysis in the white paper applies expressly to DSOs, universities, and even large groups of universities, and not only to libraries. It is based on legal provisions and precedent that apply broadly to any authorized entity (in
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Finally, if you wait for<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">more</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>caselaw or for<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">another</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>revision
of copyright, you may be waiting for a very long time, but luckily we have very recent caselaw AND revisions to copyright that make clear that no purchase is needed before accessible copies are provided to qualified recipients. The Authors Guild v. HathiTrust
case is the<i class="">only<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>case ever to construe Section 121 or to apply Section 107 to accessibility. If we wanted to design the perfect case to prove that we can provide accessible copies to students without
making them buy inaccessible copies, we couldn’t do much better than<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">HathiTrust.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>In that case, the court considered whether the University of Michigan could
provide accessible copies of books from the HathiTrust collection to students with print disabilities without any payment or permission from the copyright holders. The court said, categorically, yes. The recently-passed Marrakesh Treaty implementation bill
made a few modifications to Section 121, and all of them were designed to expand accessibility. None of them added a purchase requirement, which did not exist prior to Marrakesh. So we have a recent case that is perfectly on point, and recent legislation that
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Ignore the people who have responded that your student doesn’t have to show proof of ownership (note I did not say proof of purchase). That white paper that
is being tossed around covers LIBRARIES but does not cover DSOs producing alternate format directly. This is still a very grey area, and it is better to err on the side of caution until further clarification from the courts or the federal government. A white
paper is not law, it is simply an opinion piece. I ask for proof of ownership from the student (aka, show me your book). And I give students the version they are requesting and have obtained. There are some publishers that require proof of purchase before
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Athen] Alternate Formats and Varying Editions of Textbooks</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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I have a question about how different campuses manage alternate format delivery for textbooks when the required edition is different from a digital version that your office may already have from a previous year or other student. For example, if your office
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We've been talking about this a lot in our office, and we haven't landed on a great solution yet. I'd love to hear how other offices handle this sort of thing.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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