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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">The posts about Zoom accessible issues has been most helpful to me. I have gone on the site and find none of this documentation there. I, for one, am happy to
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lucy GRECO<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2020 10:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Share positive messaging (was Re: Zoom has some inaccessible features)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It would be helpful if we could stop emphasizing that "Zoom has some inaccessible features"? I've also changed the subject line to suggest that we share more positive messaging.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are a few features lacking in Zoom; however, in this time of crisis we should be promoting the positive side of things as well as companies who are making an effort with accessibility.<br>
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Zoom has been accessible and excellent in most areas, and frankly no other tool holds a candle to it.<br>
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If someone new gets one of these messages, they might not go past the "Zoom has some inaccessible features" subject line, which would be unfortunate if they would benefit from using Zoom and are misdirected.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lucy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Lucia Greco<br>
Web Accessibility Evangelist <br>
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration<br>
University of California, Berkeley<br>
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco<br>
<a href="http://webaccess.berkeley.edu" target="_blank">http://webaccess.berkeley.edu</a><br>
Follow me on twitter @accessaces<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:49 AM Deborah Armstrong <<a href="mailto:armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu" target="_blank">armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">I will have to try this with NVDA, but with the JAWS scripts the chat text is easy to read and select. It’s using the virtual cursor. I never had issues
working with the chat. I’ve used it extensively in webinars, often more than my voice, because I take webinars at work where I don’t want to talk.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">As for pasting the links, I just paste them directly in to the browser address bar or the run box. I get lots of emails and documents where a link isn’t
clickable – sighted folk do too, and you have to copy and paste the link in to the browser.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">The bigger concern I think is going to be online tutoring which is likely to rely on the inaccessible whiteboard and screen sharing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">And I’m expecting our BVI students to still want to work with tutors.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Travis Roth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2020 7:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Zoom has some inaccessible features<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It is possible to highlight the chat message with arrow keys, move to the More actions button and choose copy message and paste the message in a text editor and copy the link from
there. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It is a frustrating and tedious workaround but sometimes necessary when working with colleagues.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Richwine<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2020 8:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Zoom has some inaccessible features<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Another important limitation with Zoom to keep in mind: Links posted in the chat are not accessible. The only work around would be to email out links separately or perhaps save
the chat transcript and then email out the chat transcript.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 5:21 PM Deborah Armstrong <<a href="mailto:armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu" target="_blank">armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Though zoom is popular with BVI folks like my previous message said, the whiteboard and screen sharing are not accessible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The whiteboard can not be accessed with the keyboard or read with a screen reader. Shared screens are also not text-based.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Instructors need to know that they’ll have to read what’s written on their digital boards and provide handouts a student can open in a separate window rather than just viewing the
instructor’s shared screen.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But sharing your screen as a screen reader user is both keyboard and voice accessible, plus the ability to record and control other aspects of zoom is accessible as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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