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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Hi Randi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I realized I hadn’t gotten back to you with our current classes or put you on our notification list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>We have classes scheduled starting next week for 508 documents: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>InDesign, PDFs, Word, Forms. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Schedule is at <a href="http://www.PubCom.com/classes">www.PubCom.com/classes</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Classes are:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Live, hands-on, and instructor-led in online classrooms.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Are discounted 12% during the crisis.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Have an additional academic discount for your college: Use <b>academic10 </b>at checkout.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I’ve attached our recent email newsletter which has more details and handy tutorials.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Let us know how we can help,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>—Bevi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO <b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'>|</span></b> <a href="mailto:Bevi@PubCom.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Bevi@PubCom.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>PubCom: <span style='color:#C00000'>Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>consulting <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> training <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> development <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> design <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> sec. 508 services<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Upcoming classes</b> at <a href="http://www.pubcom.com/classes"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.PubCom.com/<b>classes</b></span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://mailchi.mp/dfadd677496c/heqcq8lsqb-2960773"><b><span style='color:#0563C1'>Latest</span></b><span style='color:#0563C1'> blog-newsletter</span></a> – Accessibility Tips at <a href="http://www.pubcom.com/blog"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.PubCom.com/blog</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jiron, Randi <RJiron@roguecc.edu> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 12, 2016 11:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> chagnon@pubcom.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Athen] JAWS and PDF/Word/Text files<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your response, Bevi.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Well, first off, we haven’t worked with a student with needs like this for quite some time. No since way back when we were providing books on tape/CD. So, I’m sure I have a lot to learn about accessibility in PDF files. Also, I was just informed of this student by our coordinator last week and was expected to provide electronic files for her by the second week in January, we will be going on break soon, so unfortunately that limits my time. It would have been nice to have meet with her a month ago to get things ironed out. So, I don’t know what her level of expertise is with JAWS and I don’t know what software she has been provided on her laptop. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>That being said, where can I learn about creating accessible PDF files? We get most of the electronic files from a publishing clearinghouse, so I doubt they are already accessible, but I can send you a sample chapter. We do have access to Adobe Pro which my research tells me can be used to tag the PDF files?? I have also been asked to scan a small book that we don’t have a publisher file for. Can I also tag the file I will be creating? I don’t even know where to begin on the math book since I’m sure there will be special software to make the math equations accessible.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks again for your response, any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#002060'>Randi Jiron, </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:#002060'>MBA/TM</span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#002060'>Disability Services Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#002060'>Redwood Campus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#002060'>Rogue Community College<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>541-956-7214<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chagnon | PubCom<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 9, 2016 4:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] JAWS and PDF/Word/Text files<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’ll let others address math-reading software.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>But in terms of giving a PDF versus a Word versus a text document, I’d go for the PDF. That is, if it is tagged correctly for full accessibility.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A lousy PDF is a nightmare, but a well-tagged PDF with the correct reading order can be an excellent experience.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Word has its accessibility problems: one key problem for textbooks is that text boxes that are often used for pull quotes and sidebar material are not accessible in Word. But they can be made accessible in a PDF.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Text files shouldn’t even be considered because that file format lacks so much:<o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Headings, which are critical for comprehension and understanding, as well as for navigating the book quickly.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Alt-text on graphics, which most likely will be the formulas and equations.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>Hyperlinks for accessing websites, cross-references, tables of content, footnotes, indexes, and anything else that should be clickable. <o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>However, before going further, I suggest you investigate 2 things about the PDF the student was already given:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>1. Is it fully accessible? That is, does it have the correct tags, reading order, alt-text, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>2. Does the student know how to use JAWS? A short briefing in how to access documents quickly via keyboard shortcuts could help.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>3. And does her computer have software to specifically assist with reading math, science, etc.?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There are plenty of us on this list who could probably test the PDF for you. Just ask.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>--Bevi Chagnon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Bevi Chagnon </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>| </span><a href="http://www.pubcom.com/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>www.<b>PubCom</b>.com</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Technologists, Consultants, Trainers, Designers, and Developers<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>for publishing & communication<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>| Acrobat PDF | Print | EPUBS | Sec. 508 Accessibility |<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jiron, Randi<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 9, 2016 6:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network (<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>) <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] JAWS and PDF/Word/Text files<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We have a new student who is blind and requested alternate format for her books. She is a JAWS user and first requested PDF files but then said JAWS wouldn’t work well with the PDF and asked for Word docs. We provided the Word docs and she says her computer froze up while trying to access. She is now asking for TEXT files, one of the books is a math book. She is working with Commission for the Blind, who has provided her with the laptop and the software that she is using. I suggested that she contact her advisor at Commission to ensure the computer is working properly and to see if there is tech support through that organization. Other than that, do you have some suggestions for us on providing electronic text for this student especially the math book? Isn’t there special software for converting the math portion of the math text book? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for your time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:20.0pt;font-family:Harrington;color:#7030A0'>Randi Jiron</span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:#7030A0'>,</span></i></b><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:#7030A0'> </span></i><i><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:#7030A0'>MBA/TM</span></i><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:#7030A0'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Disability Services Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Josephine County<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Rogue Community College<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif'>541-956-7214 Redwood Campus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif'>541-471-3550 FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif'>7-1-1 OTRS (Oregon Telecom Relay Service)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.roguecc.edu/DisabilityServices/"><span style='color:blue'>www.roguecc.edu/DisabilityServices/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:dotted #003333 1.0pt;padding:5.0pt 5.0pt 5.0pt 5.0pt'><p style='line-height:10.0pt;font-color:black'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif'>This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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