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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">Thanks, Kate, for mentioning the white paper on reconciling copyrights and civil rights! I’m glad it’s been helpful to you, and you’re right about the main upshot of the paper: you have many
more options for lawfully providing accessible copies to qualified students than most folks realize.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">In the original message, it’s not clear to me what it is about copyright law that prohibits the ideal course of action – extracting an accessible chapter from the relevant e-book version.
Is this forbidden by the e-book license agreement? Both fair use and the Chafee Amendment would permit using the ebook to obtain an accessible format version, unless there is a binding license agreement in place to prevent you. You’d have to be sure that only
the qualified student is served by the resulting copy, and of course you’d need to be sure the student actually is qualified. What am I missing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">Brandon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> on behalf of Kate Deibel <kndeibel@syr.edu><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, June 15, 2020 at 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Athen] Copyright law woes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Librarian here, but not one specializing in copyright law.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The Association of Research Libraries released a great
<a href="https://www.arl.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/2019.07.15-white-paper-law-and-accessible-texts.pdf">
white paper on the intersection of legal aspects of fair use, copyright, and accessibility (PDF)</a>. One of the main interpretations that come from this paper is that the current accessibility law precedents give a lot of options when accessibility is the
issue. The biggest issue is in regard to sharing the remediated copies, which ultimately seems to be at the publisher’s discretion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I concur with George that since you could legitimately get a copy of the ebook from the library via interlibrary loan, grabbing the necessary set of pages should be within
legal means. Eventually, the instructor should, via fair use doctrine, inquire about permissions to use the materials on a long term basis.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I would caution against assuming that e-book excerpt equals accessible PDF. My experience is that most ebooks may have accessible text but that’s it. Tables, images, and other
markup may be quite bad if the originating content is a PDF. DRM protected ebooks in particular are headaches since most publishers only test for access by popular screen readers but not other reading tools like Read&Write or other text-to-speech tools. It’s
weird to have a document that can be read by JAWS but not a lighter weight reader tool. Fortunately, DRM stripping for accessibility needs is permitted by the Chafee amendment in the United States (as covered in the aforementioned white paper).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I would still talk with your library and legal counsel for more insight. Do share that white paper, though.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#D74100">Katherine (Kate) Deibel</span></b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#D44500">
</span></b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">| PhD</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Inclusion & Accessibility Librarian<br>
Syracuse University Libraries </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">T</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> 315.443.7178<br>
<a href="mailto:kndeibel@syr.edu">kndeibel@syr.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">222 Waverly Ave., Syracuse, NY 13244</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#D44500">Syracuse University</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>kerscher@montana.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Copyright law woes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Debee,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am not a lawyer and do not give copyright advice. However, whatever gave the professor the right to grab a few pages from a title, I would guess the fair use doctrine, would also give the right to copy and paste the same amount from a
digital version, IMO (non-legal).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">You could certainly send a link to the professor of the digital version and have him or her grab it from that version, and of course, the professor must have the legal right to the digital version either by purchasing it or getting it from
the library.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agree this is a real pain and it would be far better to work from the digital version of content for these purposes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">George<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah Armstrong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 12, 2020 5:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Copyright law woes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So here’s a typical scenario: instructor posts a reading assignment on Canvas today that’s due by middle of next week. The instructor grabbed a literature anthology off her shelf at home, scanned a few pages and posted a PDF.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There’s no time for the poor student to get me the material to convert to an alternate format. I just got a panicked email from a student in just such a situation.I told her to have the instructor either email me the scan or email me the
source information.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The adjunct faculty is especially bad at this; instead of having all their materials ready at the start of the quarter they randomly post things on canvas as the due dates come up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now if it wasn’t for copyright law, I’d simply send the ebook of the entire Norton anthology of literature to the offending instructor, tell them to lift the relevant readings from the ebook and post their own accessible copies.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But copyright law actually prevents me from doing this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And most instructors don’t have the book so they either have to type it in by hand or post a picture of a page.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We can scream as much as we like about accessible content but no instructor wants to spend the extra hours typing things in.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And it is impossible it seems to get them to stick to just one textbook and assign all their readings from there.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wish we could either force them to stick with one book instead of pulling readings from hither and yon or force legal entities to disregard copyright!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have all this training on how to create accessible content but the elephant in the room is that they ***DON’T*** create their own content. They pull it from everywhere!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">--Debee<o:p></o:p></p>
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