<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Our accessible, digital versions are done in HTML5. Everything is semantically marked up, bullets are true bullets, lists are true lists, etc. I can easily pull that HTML into an accessible PDF, but the issue I’m encountering is they want the PDF to be a beautiful, print layout that looks exactly like something that would come from the printer. <div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Robert Beach <<a href="mailto:rbeach@KCKCC.EDU" class="">rbeach@KCKCC.EDU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">If your electronic version is accessible, you “should” be able to generate an accessible PDF version from that. What format is your current accessible electronic version?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Robert Lee Beach<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Assistive Technology Specialist<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Kansas City Kansas Community College<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">7250 State Avenue<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Kansas City, KS 66112<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Phone: 913-288-7671<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rbeach@kckcc.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rbeach@kckcc.edu</a> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Amanda Ryan<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, September 15, 2020 5:56 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[EXT][Athen] Accessible Digital Content - Still Need PDF<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="border: 1.5pt solid rgb(0, 84, 166); padding: 4pt 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center; background-color: rgb(249, 230, 153);" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red;" class="">CAUTION:</span></strong><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:support@kckcc.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-weight: normal;" class="">support@kckcc.edu</span></a>.</span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Good morning! We are currently required to create PDFs for many projects because they were promised to funders. We are trying our hardest to push people away from PDFs, but it will be years before we get to a place of zero PDFs.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">We always create an accessible digital version, which is what we put front and center, but people still want the PDF available. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">How do others handle the situation where you have an accessible digital version, but you still need to have a PDF version? <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 77, 91); letter-spacing: 0.35pt;" class="">Amanda Ryan <br class="">Academic Technologist | Institute on Community Integration | </span><span style="" class=""><a href="https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgovrelations.umn.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cece937dee4674d096ef508d859662e84%7C23c46d06c5e342e3b848763ebb02e6ad%7C0%7C0%7C637357642703478805&sdata=ivSLXeM0ANEMd%2Fq2dPXRyrNIcWPZtmUL2oABmCgjecc%3D&reserved=0" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 77, 91); letter-spacing: 0.35pt; text-decoration: none;" class="">ici.umn.edu</span></b></a></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 77, 91); letter-spacing: 0.35pt;" class=""><br class="">University of Minnesota | </span><span style="" class=""><a href="https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fumn.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cece937dee4674d096ef508d859662e84%7C23c46d06c5e342e3b848763ebb02e6ad%7C0%7C0%7C637357642703478805&sdata=cDPXakLUONNLuLKEjkibl1JBmo9ZRgI6FxdBTQ3PlYU%3D&reserved=0" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 77, 91); letter-spacing: 0.35pt; text-decoration: none;" class="">umn.edu</span></b></a></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 77, 91); letter-spacing: 0.35pt;" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="" class=""><a href="mailto:anedoe@umn.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; 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