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<div style="margin: 0px;"><font face="Helvetica"><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">This is a great approach! I didn’t mean to come across as saying having both is not a good idea! I think it is great as long as when one is updated, both are,
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<p class="airmail_on">On September 16, 2020 at 1:19:35 PM, Sheryl Burgstahler (<a href="mailto:sherylb@uw.edu">sherylb@uw.edu</a>) wrote:</p>
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<div>At the DO-IT Center we offer our publications in HTML, but give individuals access to a PDF as an alternative (often because they want to print the document for reasons that include printing it out as a handout at a conference or as a product to distribute
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