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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I believe research has shown that technology does help improve literacy skills. Think of spell checkers and text-to-speech. Both researched based strategies shown to improve
spelling and reading abilities. Adults who struggle with grammar may read many well-written materials yet still demonstrate a gap in writing skills. While there are those who will use grammar checkers for an easy way out, there are students who will learn
because they are seeing a form of modeling using their own papers as a platform.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah Armstrong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Grammarly with a screen reader?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Since we are all voicing opinions here, I think it’s pretty sad when any college level student needs to use a grammar checker. Shouldn’t they be learning to write
by reading well-written materials rather than having a computer catch their mistakes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Sometimes IMOH, a computer isn’t the solution!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Comden<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Grammarly with a screen reader?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's a disappointing response, to be sure.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps if they hear "our institution will not consider a site license for Grammarly's inaccessible software, and we share that information with other institutions" would ramp up their awareness to the point of addressing such a distinct
accessibility failure. That's essentially what we do here, and perhaps they would take notice.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ok, I'm a dreamer :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:55 AM Lisa Brandt <<a href="mailto:lisa.brandt1@pcc.edu">lisa.brandt1@pcc.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">We met with Grammarly a couple of months ago for a demo. When we informed them that the product does not meet our requirements for accessibility, the answer was just "thanks for
letting me know" and an offer of a discount for students who want to purchase an individual license. No "we're working on it" or "I'll take that back to my team." So I don't think anything has changed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:48 AM Lucy GRECO <<a href="mailto:lgreco@berkeley.edu" target="_blank">lgreco@berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">sadly the grammarly people have known about this from the start and i don't think they ever spent any time fixing it. i would love it if it world but hay maybe they think one disability keeps you from having others.
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(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 9:39 AM Russell Solowoniuk <<a href="mailto:solowoniukr@macewan.ca" target="_blank">solowoniukr@macewan.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Our library is offering free access to Grammarly Premium to all current students, faculty, and staff.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We have an instructor who is blind who says he is not able to successfully use Grammarly with his screen reader, Jaws.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Do any of you know of a way to get Grammarly to work with Jaws, or any other screen reader?<o:p></o:p></p>
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