<div dir="ltr">As far as I'm concerned, if they are asked to sign a statement that they bought the book, they're responsible for being truthful; I have documentation they signed saying they've bought the book. Clearly I'm not a lawyer, so someone please let me know if this is not sufficient, but it's not the only example in society where we sign things indicating that we are telling the truth, so it seems appropriate.<div><br>Robert</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 6:37 PM <a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com">foreigntype@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com">foreigntype@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Scott,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I respectfully disagree. I'm going to throw out Jamie Axelrod's NAU info page on what's necessary to fulfill copyright requirements: <a href="https://in.nau.edu/disability-resources/alternate-format-program/#:~:text=Publishers%20currently%20have%20a%20requirement,proof%20of%20purchase%20on%20file" target="_blank">https://in.nau.edu/disability-resources/alternate-format-program/#:~:text=Publishers%20currently%20have%20a%20requirement,proof%20of%20purchase%20on%20file</a>.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">If textbooks are required for classes and the expectation is that all students must have the books (or access to the books) for class, why should students with disabilities be exempted from the requirement? This is federal copyright law. Among the gods we serve in alt-text production and accommodations, OCR is god#1 and copyright is god#2. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">My 2.5 cents for a rainy bleak midwinter's day in the PNW.</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Wink Harner<br></div>Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production<br></div>The Foreign Type<br><br></div></div>Portland OR<br><a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com" target="_blank">foreigntype@gmail.com</a><br>480-984-0034<br><br></div><div>This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata .<br></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 1:33 PM Lissner, L. Scott <<a href="mailto:lissner.2@osu.edu" target="_blank">lissner.2@osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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https://www.arl.org/resources/the-law-and-accessible-texts-reconciling-civil-rights-and-copyrights/</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/15/21, 1:56 PM, "athen-list on behalf of Kluesner, Bryon" <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a> on behalf of
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<p class="MsoNormal">When you work with students who have been approved for alternate texts, do you require proof of purchase or proof of having a copy of the text, such as purchase from Amazon, having a “physical copy”, whether used or bought from a friend?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATAC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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