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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>For an organization chart, we’ve found hierarchical nested lists work well for most. Although it gets cumbersome when the levels are too deep or complicated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Using headings is workable, except as noted previously…when certain positions or levels are missing in some branches of the org chart. In that type of chart, I don’t know of any method that would work satisfactorily.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>PDF/UA-1 loosely requires the document to maintain heading levels and not skip, but that might change in the forthcoming PDF/UA-2 standard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Bevi Chagnon <b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'>| </span></b><span style='color:#595959'>Designer, Accessibility Technician</span><b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'> |</span></b> <a href="mailto:Chagnon@PubCom.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Chagnon@PubCom.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>PubCom: <span style='color:#C00000'>Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing</span><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>consulting </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#D0CECE'>•</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> training </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#D0CECE'>•</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> development </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#D0CECE'>•</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> design </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#D0CECE'>•</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> sec. 508 services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Upcoming classes</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> at <a href="http://www.pubcom.com/classes"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.PubCom.com/<b>classes</b></span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><a href="https://mailchi.mp/e694edcdfadd/class-discount-3266574"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Latest blog-newsletter</span></a> – <b><a href="https://www.pubcom.com/blog/2020_07-20/alt-text_part-1.shtml"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text</span></a></b> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Swanson,Allison<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'>Thank you all for your input. I was sure that was what I had heard and understood throughout the years. I just wanted to make sure I’m not teaching the wrong thing!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'>The web developer I’m debating with is citing some discussions where it was determined that there are cases where sequential headings would actually not make sense: </span><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tpgi.com%2Fheading-off-confusion-when-do-headings-fail-wcag%2F&data=04%7C01%7CAllison.R.Swanson%40colostate.edu%7C28ea536a765d447a0bdc08d9d7b69d47%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637778001597069113%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7tfQQKndcNW55U%2FXPSJpA4wzbzQDgrRDK2tZZMmEN60%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">TPGi: When do headings fail WCAG?</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'>An example the developer gave me was an organization chart where headings are used to depict organization hierarchy: h1 = President, h2 = VP, h3 = AVP, h4 = Executive Director, h5 = Director.<br><br>“In that structural hierarchy, there may be divisions/departments that don't have an AVP, or Executive Director, or potentially other levels. In those cases, it would not make sense visually, or structurally to elevate people from lower levels to conform to a specific document structure.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'>I can see where this is a case where skipping heading levels would actually make sense. Does anyone have thoughts on that? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'>I think for most ordinary web content, however, it’s still going to be best practice to keep headings sequential.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;color:#1E4D2B'>Allison Swanson<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1E4D2B'><img border=0 width=199 height=56 style='width:2.0729in;height:.5833in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image001.png@01D80C83.481340A0" alt="Assistive Technology Resource Center Colorado State University"></span><span style='color:#1E4D2B'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F4E79'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>