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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Lol, let’s have some fun!!!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Wonderful that <span style='color:#1F497D'>Macmillan provided you a PDF version! Great that Macmillan is so responsive.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Still it is important for the members of this list to understand that in many, many cases the EPUB 3 version with image descriptions and MathML support is far, far superior to a PDF that requires DSO remediation support. It is better to help students to learn to use the modern Born Accessible formats rather than rely on an ancient PDF technology that cannot be personalized with modification of font size, color and supports for ReadAloud with highlighted text.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t know if this webinar is still active, but it was a wonderful presentation: Rumble in the Publishing Jungle, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://ahead.adobeconnect.com/pk3u4ybpavxp/">https://ahead.adobeconnect.com/pk3u4ybpavxp/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 3-4 pm ET</span></b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#524A4B'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#524A4B'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Presented by </span></b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#524A4B'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Susan Kelmer, University of Colorado Boulder</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#524A4B'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>George Kerscher, DAISY Consortium</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#524A4B'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#524A4B'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>In the PDF corner, wearing the blue tutu, is Susan Kelmer and in the EPUB corner, wearing green trunks, is George Kerscher. This heavy weight event is ten rounds of full impact advocacy for access to information. “EPUB is the greatest,” said George Kerscher, and he went on to say, “I will show the way of the future for all born accessible published materials.” “PDF is the established world champion,” countered Susan Kelmer, following with a right hook by continuing, “We know how to deal with PDF, and our students want PDF.” This is a sanctioned AHEAD championship event. The referee and question-keeper, who will make sure there is no hitting below the belt, will be Rachel Kruzel. Fans should make sure their tickets are booked ASAP because seats are limited, and this is the ultimate event to fully understand EPUB, PDF, their differences, and the advantages of each.</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#524A4B'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#524A4B'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2022 3:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Does anyone have this book in PDF? Or anything but an ePub??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Not to get into intense details on the student, but none of the Bookshare versions are going to work for him. That is the end of the discussion on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The student’s disabilities require a perfectly formatted MS Word version, including images, appropriate heading levels, page numbers, a table of contents with page numbers, and an index with page numbers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>While Bookshare may be some sort of solution for some sorts of students, it is not a solution for this particular student. If I could have massaged the Bookshare version into something resembling what the student requires, I would have done that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In the meantime, a lovely member of this group sent me the PDF files, and I’ve already completed converting 3 chapters to what the student needs since this morning, without having to locate a hard copy of the book for understanding the layout, figuring out the page numbers, adding page numbers to the table of contents or the index, or scanning any images to add into the text for the student to access. Additionally, all headings were marked clearly through level 6! Wonder of wonders!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In other words…the PDF is easier for me to work with to convert to Word. The PDF contains all of the elements of the original print book. The PDF means I don’t have to go out and find other information, or figure out layout, teach the student to use a different reader to access an ePub that doesn’t work for him, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I asked for a PDF of this book. I received one from another member of this group. And yes, after two days, Macmillan sent me a PDF version of this title, which I also now have access to. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Now, I need to get back to work. The student needs these files in a few days, and I have a deadline to meet. When Bookshare can give me PDFs, I’ll reconsider my stance on how they operate. Until then, they are not going to be my first choice for accessible materials, because I am not finding them to be accessible at all and create a barrier not only for the student, but for my work in providing alternate format/media to students with complex disabilities.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Susan Kelmer </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Alternate Format Production Program Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Division of Student Affairs <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'>T</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>303 735 4836</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'><a href="http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices"><span style='color:#CFB87C'>www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#CFB87C'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#CFB87C'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><img border=0 width=150 height=56 style='width:1.5625in;height:.5833in' id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:image001.png@01D859A3.FD583F70"></span><span style='color:#0070C0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you’ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. </span></i><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:kerscher@montana.com">kerscher@montana.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2022 3:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Does anyone have this book in PDF? Or anything but an ePub??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Good news on this title!!!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I just downloaded it from Bookshare.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It is published by Macmillan Learning It has page numbers and images and is WCAG AA compliant.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Also, Macmillan Learning has a policy of providing the PDF if for some reason a PDF is needed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I opened it in Thorium Reader on Windows and read the Accessibility Summary. I then went directly to page 100.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I believe this also uses MathML which is a terrific feature.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A wonderfully accessible publication.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>George<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kamran Rasul<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2022 2:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Does anyone have this book in PDF? Or anything but an ePub??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Unless I am misunderstanding the email chain, Kurzweil opens for both desktop and universal library epub formatted materials.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It is true lack of proper page numbering can be an issue and no images either.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=225 height=51 style='width:2.3402in;height:.5277in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image002.png@01D859A3.FD583F70" alt="Johns Hopkins University logo"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Kamran Rasul, MEd.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Assistive Technology/Alternate Format Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:krasul1@jhu.edu"><span style='color:#0088CC'>krasul1@jhu.edu</span></a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Student Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>3400 N. Charles Street<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Baltimore, MD 21218<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:kerscher@montana.com">kerscher@montana.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2022 3:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Does anyone have this book in PDF? Or anything but an ePub??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><b><br></b><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:white;background:red'> External Email - Use Caution </span></strong><o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>You know that Kurzweil has an EPUB reader for the Mac. Have they released the one for Windows?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>George<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2022 12:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Does anyone have this book in PDF? Or anything but an ePub??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Unfortunately, George, all of these formats need a ton of work on our end to be converted to what the student needs to work with. The ePub doesn’t have page numbers and it also cannot be read by Kurzweil. The Word version has no images and no workable table of contents or index (kind of important for this kind of book). The student is not blind so Braille and Daisy are not appropriate either.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I only ever ask for a PDF when I need one, and in this case, I need one. Publisher is only providing an ePub, which does not meet this student’s needs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Susan Kelmer </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Alternate Format Production Program Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Division of Student Affairs <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'>T</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>303 735 4836</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.colorado.edu%2Fdisabilityservices&data=05%7C01%7Ckrasul1%40jhu.edu%7Ce311f5ca147e4910879108da27be6dda%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637865996143458886%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=78a%2Fp2mzl3k7ffn1TGew38SL1AI1tl10dzqhEjD80%2BA%3D&reserved=0"><span style='color:#CFB87C'>www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#CFB87C'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#CFB87C'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><img border=0 width=150 height=56 style='width:1.5625in;height:.5833in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01D859A3.FD583F70"></span><span style='color:#0070C0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you’ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. </span></i><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:kerscher@montana.com">kerscher@montana.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2022 11:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Does anyone have this book in PDF? Or anything but an ePub??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This is in the Bookshare collection, so I believe you could get it in Word, MP3, BRF, DAISY, and of course EPUB.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>George<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2022 8:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Does anyone have this book in PDF? Or anything but an ePub??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Organic Chemistry, 7<sup>th</sup> ed, Loudon, isbn 9781319188429 or 9781319335915<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>TIA!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Susan Kelmer </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Alternate Format Production Program Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Division of Student Affairs <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'>T</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <span style='color:black'>303 735 4836</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.colorado.edu%2Fdisabilityservices&data=05%7C01%7Ckrasul1%40jhu.edu%7Ce311f5ca147e4910879108da27be6dda%7C9fa4f438b1e6473b803f86f8aedf0dec%7C0%7C0%7C637865996143458886%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=78a%2Fp2mzl3k7ffn1TGew38SL1AI1tl10dzqhEjD80%2BA%3D&reserved=0"><span style='color:#CFB87C'>www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#CFB87C'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#CFB87C'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><img border=0 width=150 height=56 style='width:1.5625in;height:.5833in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D859A3.FD583F70"></span><span style='color:#0070C0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. 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