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<div style="margin:0px;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">Thank you again for your reply to my Excel accessibility question. I shared your recommendations and exam Excel file with the Accounting professor and student. Both shared additional
 comments and questions about how they are using Excel to complete homework assignments. I do not know the answers to their questions. Do you or any others here have further insight to share with us? I plant to contact Microsoft's accessibility helpdes- as
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<span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;">"One question I would ask</span><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;"> </span><span data-markjs="true" class="mark5b5go1vu7" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="" style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;">Karen</span><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;"> </span><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;">is
 what specifically she would recommend to allow accessibility to inputting formulas when referencing specific cells with a screen reader.  After typing “=” within excel, the user can start entering a formula.  When trying to access cells if the user does not
 know the specific cell at present I do not know how to use the highlighting feature to select cells to add.  The screen reader does not provide feedback when selecting cells within the formula bar.  During our meeting I hope to give you a better picture of
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<span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;">At present we use the go to dialog within the formula bar accessed with “control+g” or “f3 to paste a range name.  This can be time consuming as we need to label specific cells or already have the range name in place. 
 If a user wants to select cells surrounding the cell the formula is being entered in, does a way exist allowing the user to accessibly read the cells being selected with the arrow keys?"</span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;">"First, the question, for</span><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;"> </span><span data-markjs="true" class="markdmu0stg15" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="" style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;">Karen</span><span style="font-size: 14pt;">: 
 Is there a reason why she did not use a “TitleRegion..E14” range name that would enable a screenreader to read the row and column title anytime the user has selected any cell within the table parameters?  (Does the screenreader automatically read row and column
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;">Then my observation:  The most(?) common use of Excel files is to calculate, then present or communicate data/information to the user of the file.  Often the file creator is also the end user, but often the end user is a second
 party. </span><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;"> </span><span data-markjs="true" class="markdmu0stg15" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="" style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14pt;">Karen</span><span style="font-size: 14pt;">’s file is
 a good example of the file creator communicating data/information to a second party.  The student and I are using Excel to accomplish a somewhat different task – we are using Excel as an e-homework delivery system, comparable to MyAccountingLab (Pearson),
 or CNow (Cengage), or Connect (McGraw-Hill), or WileyPlus (Wiley), or MyOpenMath (free, OER e-homework platform).  So my objective is to present the student with an Excel file that provides data (often embedded in sentences or paragraphs) and a pre-designed
 working area in which he does the accounting AND gets autofeedback as he works through the accounting requirements within a file.  Our unorthodox use of Excel is part of what’s causing our biggest challenges – we’ll take you through examples when we meet."</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Monica Olsson<br>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> on behalf of Karen McCall <<a href="mailto:K4mccall@outlook.com">K4mccall@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 27, 2022 8:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [SPAM] Re: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed!</span> </p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Cambria",serif; color:#1F3864">One of the things I recommend I is using named ranges or a defined name for a cell to create links to specific topics in an Excel worksheet or workbook.</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Cambria",serif; color:#1F3864">Cheers, Karen</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Monica Olsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 27, 2022 10:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed!</p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Are you or anyone you know an Excel accessibility wizard? I am working with an Accounting professor that has done an incredible job redesigning her materials to be
 accessible to a blind student in her class. She has sent me specific questions about her excel files and there is a need for deeper support that is beyond my current knowledge.</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#201F1E; background:white">While we have recently discovered a feature that lets a student <i>efficiently</i> use range names to create formulas (eliminating the need to know WHERE a given
 piece of data is actually located), there are times when naming ranges is not efficient.  So there are still times when we need to be able to refer to a specific location <i>in the process of creating a formula</i>.  If the data is located on a sheet other
 than where the formula resides, the only way we have been able to enter the cell address in the formula is by PRE-locating the cell, then eventually typing the cell address into the formula.  This is cumbersome, time-consuming and a distraction from the flow
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