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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Many scholarly journalsare written in the XML vocabulary called “Journal Article Tag Suite” (JATS). This is a rich vocabulary the journal artless are authored in. They are then transformed into normally HTML or PDF for consumption. There is an accessibility working group for JATS that has just been started.Some of the issues they are dealing with is making sure the articles have proper markup for tables and alt text being provided.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is huge potential to make scholarly publications accessible through transformations into HTML that has full accessibility markup.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>George<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexis Delevett<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 9, 2022 2:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks, that's great news about articles generally being tagged.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Of course, your experience may be different also for textbooks, but I more often than not find that textbooks in PDF are not tagged and so now I'm wondering why textbooks are treated differently than journal articles?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> on behalf of Susan Kelmer <<a href="mailto:Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu">Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 9, 2022 1:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I doubt many of the publisher-produced PDFs are not accessible/tagged. Every article I run into on a library database produced by a publisher is well-formatted and perfectly tagged.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The author specifically points to librarians creating documents using Microsoft word, so I’m assuming these are in-house documents. You don’t create a PDF in Adobe PDF, you create it somewhere else and export it to PDF, with tags and etc. This is why I feel like the author doesn’t really understand what he is talking about. Even a basically formatted Word file with the use of styles/headings exports as a nice PDF once it is done, and it takes very little time to do that.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Susan Kelmer </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Alternate Format Production Program Manager</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Disability Services</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Health and Wellness Services</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#CFB87C'>T</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>303 735 4836</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#CFB87C'><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.colorado.edu%2Fdisabilityservices&data=05%7C01%7Calexis_delevett%40cuesta.edu%7C6bfb0e613e534930db0308da929f8c4e%7Cdd06762afacb4cd7a4a5cc0ba50bcc30%7C0%7C0%7C637983511215809830%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FG1ou3qXdzdfsC7EbR2G3cS6PQpU8ans60GC7p6O1p8%3D&reserved=0"><span style='color:#CFB87C'>www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices</span></a> </span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#CFB87C'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#CFB87C'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue";color:black'><img border=0 width=150 height=56 style='width:1.5625in;height:.5833in' id="x_Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D8C468.037BD680"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you’ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexis Delevett<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 9, 2022 1:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Say we are stuck with PDF as the de facto storage format, why are Libraries still accepting untagged PDFs from publishers? Aren't they then on the hook for providing inaccessible digital content?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=xmsonormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><hr size=1 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> on behalf of Susan Kelmer <<a href="mailto:Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu">Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 9, 2022 12:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Well, there is some glaring misinformation in there, and definitely too short a piece to be truly useful.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Remediating a PDF is difficult and time-consuming, while creating a good quality accessible WORD document is easy and only takes a few steps. That good quality Word file, which only took a few minutes to create properly, can then be output to multiple formats, including tagged PDF and HTML.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am not sure the author really understands what he is talking about. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Susan Kelmer </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Alternate Format Production Program Manager</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Disability Services</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Health and Wellness Services</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'>T</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>303 735 4836</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.colorado.edu%2Fdisabilityservices&data=05%7C01%7Calexis_delevett%40cuesta.edu%7C6bfb0e613e534930db0308da929f8c4e%7Cdd06762afacb4cd7a4a5cc0ba50bcc30%7C0%7C0%7C637983511215809830%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FG1ou3qXdzdfsC7EbR2G3cS6PQpU8ans60GC7p6O1p8%3D&reserved=0"><span style='color:#CFB87C'>www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices</span></a> </span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#CFB87C'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#CFB87C'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue";color:black'><img border=0 width=150 height=56 style='width:1.5625in;height:.5833in' id="x_x_Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D8C468.037BD680"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you’ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xxmsonormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adina Mulliken<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 9, 2022 12:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:inherit;color:black'>Sorry, this article might not be the best thing to share on a Friday afternoon, but here it is. I’m not agreeing with the article. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:inherit;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:inherit;color:black'>Chee, M., & Weaver, K. (2022). The great PDF debate: Accessible or impossible?. <em><span style='font-family:inherit;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>College & Research Libraries News, 83</span></em>(8), 363. doi:<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.org%2F10.5860%2Fcrln.83.8.363&data=05%7C01%7Calexis_delevett%40cuesta.edu%7C6bfb0e613e534930db0308da929f8c4e%7Cdd06762afacb4cd7a4a5cc0ba50bcc30%7C0%7C0%7C637983511215809830%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SEEg4kr9vpXxEfv7WNPkjUN%2BMVld3%2FiWgHafNedi5wQ%3D&reserved=0"><span style='color:#56B0C9;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>https://doi.org/10.5860/crln.83.8.363</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:inherit;color:black'>At least the article cites a couple of articles that advocate a different view.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Adina</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=xxmsonormal>Adina Mulliken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal>Associate Professor, Librarian Silberman Social Work and Urban Public Health Library<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal>Hunter College, City University of New York<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal>2180 3<sup>rd</sup> Ave. New York, NY<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xxmsonormal>Phone 212-396-7665<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xxmsonormal>Pronouns she/her<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>