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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Forgot one key item in my previous post.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The article’s author states: <quote> we can engage in an effort to set standards for accessibility compliance. <end quote><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We already have accessibility standards for accessible PDFs: PDF/UA-1, and version 2 is in the works.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I sure hope the author doesn’t start to create his own standards!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>And <b>Section 508 requires PDF/UA for PDF files</b>: see <a href="https://www.access-board.gov/ict/#504-authoring-tools">504.2.2 PDF Export</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This was emphasized by the U S Access Board a while back. See <a href="https://www.pdfa.org/us-access-board-affirms-pdf-ua-required-for-modern-pdf-software/?highlight=access%20board">US Access Board affirms: PDF/UA required for “modern” PDF software</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As others have stated,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Learn how to create an accessible website, and,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Learn how to create an accessible office document and export it to an accessible PDF.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Neither format is accessible automatically; you have to learn how to do accessibility, regardless of the file format.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>—Bevi<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bevi Chagnon <b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'>| </span></b><span style='color:#595959'>Designer, Accessibility Technician</span><b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'> |</span></b> <a href="mailto:Chagnon@PubCom.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Chagnon@PubCom.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>PubCom: <span style='color:#C00000'>Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>consulting <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> training <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> development <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> design <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> sec. 508 services<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Upcoming classes</b> at <a href="http://www.pubcom.com/classes"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.PubCom.com/<b>classes</b></span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://mailchi.mp/e694edcdfadd/class-discount-3266574"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Latest blog-newsletter</span></a> – <b><a href="https://www.pubcom.com/blog/2020_07-20/alt-text_part-1.shtml"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text</span></a></b> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> chagnon@pubcom.com <chagnon@pubcom.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I found the College and Research Libraries Association article grossly mistaken about accessibility and documents, especially PDFs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The article itself, as well as many more on the association’s websites, are mis-tagged or not tagged at all. When selected, the PDFs open in a PDF viewer within the browser, which itself is not fully accessible and doesn’t pass along the accessibility of the PDF file itself. To finally get to the actual PDF file and, hopefully, take advantage of its accessibility, you must find the Download button (with poor visual contrast) and manually open the file in your version of Acrobat on your computer or device.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Their website with current journal <a href="https://crl.acrl.org/index.php/crl/issue/viewIssue/1623/18">https://crl.acrl.org/index.php/crl/issue/viewIssue/1623/18</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Their current newsletter <a href="https://crln.acrl.org/index.php/crlnews/issue/viewIssue/1624/19">https://crln.acrl.org/index.php/crlnews/issue/viewIssue/1624/19</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Their website on the ALA website <a href="https://www.ala.org/acrl/aboutacrl">https://www.ala.org/acrl/aboutacrl</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>And their annual report PDF <a href="https://crln.acrl.org/index.php/crlnews/article/view/24736/32571">https://crln.acrl.org/index.php/crlnews/article/view/24736/32571</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As Susan K. and Steve G. commented earlier, it doesn’t seem that the article’s author knows what they’re talking about. And after reviewing the organization’s website, neither does it. That’s sad because they have excellent information on the site, but it’s available only to those who are sighted and abled.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>—Bevi<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bevi Chagnon <b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'>| </span></b><span style='color:#595959'>Designer, Accessibility Technician</span><b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'> |</span></b> <a href="mailto:Chagnon@PubCom.com">Chagnon@PubCom.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>PubCom: <span style='color:#C00000'>Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>consulting <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> training <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> development <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> design <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> sec. 508 services<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Upcoming classes</b> at <a href="http://www.pubcom.com/classes">www.PubCom.com/<b>classes</b></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://mailchi.mp/e694edcdfadd/class-discount-3266574">Latest blog-newsletter</a> – <b><a href="https://www.pubcom.com/blog/standards/managing-a11ly_1/index.shtml">How to get your vendors on board with accessibility</a></b> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Green<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I don’t advocate for any document format, but I do advocate for accurate information about document formats because so much incorrect information gets spread around, mostly by people who have not done any research into the topic. I do research on a daily basis and have done for 17 years.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I don’t even understand what you mean by “</span>advocating for PDF is presently equivalent to advocating that no STEM articles are accessible”. As I have already said several times, the accessibility of a PDF is at least as good as the source document and usually better.<span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>HTML is undoubtedly the most accessible document format, but it is not suitable for certain use cases. For instance, HTML does not provide any method of digital rights management, which PDF does. It cannot be archived in a form that cannot be edited, which PDF can. Also, many content authors say they do not have the skills or facilities to create HTML content.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I don’t know why you refer to PDFs as being beautiful, because you don’t create content as PDF. Any beauty comes from the source document, such as Word. And suggesting that minimal care is required to create accessible HTML could not be more wrong, unless you are talking about trivial documents.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Gardner<br><b>Sent:</b> 10 September 2022 17:37<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Steve, please understand that advocating for PDF is presently equivalent to advocating that no STEM articles are accessible. I am no expert in this area, but I do believe that with minimal care, html can be created so that everything is accessible. Perhaps not as beautiful as PDF, but I am unaware of anything that cannot be presented in html. So why not advocate for html and point out areas where it needs improvement?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Green<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 10, 2022 3:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I have no experience of dealing with maths in any document format. I know people who do implement it in PDF, but I don’t know how they do it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>There are many types of content and many aspects of accessibility, so a full assessment of all them in all the different document formats would be a substantial piece of work. And some people never encounter some content types, so some shortcomings of a particular document format may not matter to them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>For instance, in 17 years of doing document remediation, I have never encountered maths, physics or chemical formulae, but I know someone who deals with exam papers who does hundreds of such PDFs every year. We do a lot of annual financial reports in which every page has a unique, complex layout and dozens of charts, graphs, flowcharts, org charts etc., but some people in the education sector may never have to work on documents like this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Forms are one type of content that PDF can handle very well (if you know what you are doing), but Word handles extremely badly regardless of what you do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>For people who need to use alternative colour themes, Adobe Reader’s colour substitution options for the text and background colours are far better than those in Word.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>For people with low vision, PDF allows reflow options that don’t exist in Word. This means that the zoom level can be increased without limit without a horizontal scrollbar appearing, so you only need to scroll in one direction. Adobe Reader has a basic reflow capability, while the VIP PDF Reader supports reflow even better. The nearest feature that Word has is the Web Layout, but horizontal scrolling is necessary even at low levels of magnification.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Gardner<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2022 23:50<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Steve, Math can be accessible in Word. How do you make math accessible in PDF?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Green<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 9, 2022 3:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I don’t agree with Susan’s assessment, other than the article is too short to consider all the aspects of what is a large topic. However, I didn’t see anything that I would consider to be incorrect.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I also think that Susan has set up a false dichotomy between the ease of creating a small, simple accessible Word document and remediating a PDF that was exported from an inaccessible source file. When exporting from Word, the resulting PDF will be at least as accessible as the Word file and in some ways it will be more accessible. It won’t be less accessible.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Bear in mind that you never create a document as a PDF. It always starts as some other document format, such as Word, PowerPoint, InDesign etc. If you know how to make the source document accessible and you are happy with that level of accessibility, the resulting PDF will not need any remediation in Acrobat.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>If you want to, you can do further remediation in Acrobat such that the PDF achieves a higher level of accessibility than is possible in the source document format. Even if you have done everything possible in Word, you may be able to make the document even more accessible as a PDF, depending on what the content is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Steve Green<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Managing Director<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Test Partners Ltd<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2022 20:36<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Well, there is some glaring misinformation in there, and definitely too short a piece to be truly useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Remediating a PDF is difficult and time-consuming, while creating a good quality accessible WORD document is easy and only takes a few steps. That good quality Word file, which only took a few minutes to create properly, can then be output to multiple formats, including tagged PDF and HTML.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am not sure the author really understands what he is talking about. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Susan Kelmer </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Alternate Format Production Program Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Health and Wellness Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'>T</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>303 735 4836</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#CFB87C'><a href="http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices"><span style='color:#CFB87C'>www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#CFB87C'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#CFB87C'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><img border=0 width=150 height=56 style='width:1.5654in;height:.5833in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D8C571.39FAE570"></span><span style='color:#0070C0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you’ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. </span></i><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adina Mulliken<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 9, 2022 12:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] article advocating for PDFs in College & Research Libraries News<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:black'>Sorry, this article might not be the best thing to share on a Friday afternoon, but here it is. I’m not agreeing with the article. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:black'>Chee, M., & Weaver, K. (2022). The great PDF debate: Accessible or impossible?. <em><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>College & Research Libraries News, 83</span></em>(8), 363. doi:<a href="https://doi.org/10.5860/crln.83.8.363"><span style='color:#56B0C9;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>https://doi.org/10.5860/crln.83.8.363</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:black'>At least the article cites a couple of articles that advocate a different view.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Adina<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Adina Mulliken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Associate Professor, Librarian Silberman Social Work and Urban Public Health Library<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hunter College, City University of New York<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>2180 3<sup>rd</sup> Ave. New York, NY<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Phone 212-396-7665<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>Pronouns she/her<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>