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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Apple’s VoiceOver and Preview are not fully compliant PDF processors.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(A PDF Processor is hardware/software that can write, read, update or otherwise process a PDF file.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In other words, don’t blame the PDF file format itself.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It’s the manufacturer of these programs that has not followed the ISO standards for either how to process a PDF file per the main PDF standard (ISO 32000) or per the PDF/UA accessibility standard (ISO 14329).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Just like we have WCAG standards to define an accessible website, PDF/UA is the complement for making PDFs accessible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shame on Apple for not providing this accessibility on the Mac platform. I guess it just costs this trillion-dollar company too much money to read the PDF/UA standard and build their programs to meet it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bevi Chagnon <b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'>| </span></b><span style='color:#595959'>Designer, Accessibility Technician</span><b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'> |</span></b> <a href="mailto:Chagnon@PubCom.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Chagnon@PubCom.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>PubCom: <span style='color:#C00000'>Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>consulting <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> training <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> development <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> design <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> sec. 508 services<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Upcoming classes</b> at <a href="http://www.pubcom.com/classes"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.PubCom.com/<b>classes</b></span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://mailchi.mp/e694edcdfadd/class-discount-3266574"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Latest blog-newsletter</span></a> – <b><a href="https://www.pubcom.com/blog/2020_07-20/alt-text_part-1.shtml"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text</span></a></b> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Russell Solowoniuk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 26, 2022 5:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] VoiceOver expert and PDF journal article<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Mark,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It’s been my experience with VoiceOver, on macOS, that PDFs do not read well at all. By default PDFs open in Preview, the Mac’s Adobe Reader equivalent. You can use Adobe Reader for Mac, but I don’t think the experience is much better. I’ve never been able to navigate in a PDF on the Mac by headings, or even been able to read a PDF smoothly. I’d have to try navigate a table in a PDF on the Mac to see if it works well, but I have a suspicion that it won’t.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t consider myself a VoiceOver expert, so perhaps someone with more experience using PDFs on the Mac can comment further.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Russell<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Weiler<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 26, 2022 11:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] VoiceOver expert and PDF journal article<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='border:solid #D24518 1.5pt;background:#FFEB3B;padding:1.5pt 11.25pt 1.5pt 11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D24518'>EXTERNAL:</span></b><span style='color:black'> <a href="https://myportal.macewan.ca/help.html#external-email">Use caution.</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Is there a VoiceOver expert that could meet via Zoom and share your screen and sound as you step through an example of a PDF-based journal article with me? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Checking out things like headings, tables, lists, and reading order.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Mark Weiler, PhD (he & him)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>JAWS certified and Web Accessibility Specialist <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Web & User Experience Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Wilfrid Laurier University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Waterloo, Ontario <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>