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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Russell. It feels a bit like a situation of “Am I doing something wrong or is something not working?”<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> on behalf of Russell Solowoniuk <solowoniukr@macewan.ca><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, September 26, 2022 at 5:48 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL *] Re: [Athen] VoiceOver expert and PDF journal article<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It’s been my experience with VoiceOver, on macOS, that PDFs do not read well at all. By default PDFs open in Preview, the Mac’s Adobe Reader equivalent. You can use Adobe Reader for Mac, but I don’t think the experience
is much better. I’ve never been able to navigate in a PDF on the Mac by headings, or even been able to read a PDF smoothly. I’d have to try navigate a table in a PDF on the Mac to see if it works well, but I have a suspicion that it won’t.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I don’t consider myself a VoiceOver expert, so perhaps someone with more experience using PDFs on the Mac can comment further.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Russell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Weiler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 26, 2022 11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] VoiceOver expert and PDF journal article<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#D24518">EXTERNAL:</span></b><span style="color:black"> <a href="https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmyportal.macewan.ca%2Fhelp.html%23external-email&data=05%7C01%7Cmweiler%40wlu.ca%7Cddadd82d2e9a4ad746b308daa008cbd5%7Cb45a5125b29846bc8b89ea5a7343fde8%7C1%7C0%7C637998256890676906%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=b%2FTxkX%2B0Tjf%2FOiFymaw8ySNUYUdYpFQ1j00SkTfguAI%3D&reserved=0">Use
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there a VoiceOver expert that could meet via Zoom and share your screen and sound as you step through an example of a PDF-based journal article with me?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Checking out things like headings, tables, lists, and reading order.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mark Weiler, PhD (he & him)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">JAWS certified and Web Accessibility Specialist <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Web & User Experience Librarian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wilfrid Laurier University<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Waterloo, Ontario <o:p></o:p></p>
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