<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">To reinforce what Matt has said, at the moment, Ally is not parsing mathematical content well.</div><div>Different universities in the UK are using different approaches for their staff who produce documents with LaTeX: <a href="https://github.com/A11yMaths/AccessibilityResources/wiki/Resources-by-University">Accessibility Resources for STEM by university</a> by the Jisc A11yMaths group.</div><div>At the Uni of York, our lecturers are ensuring they have created the most accessible LaTeX files possible so they output PDFs with structure, alt text or figure captions, and meaningful hyperlinks. Using pandoc and tex2html, they can then create alternative formats easily and they are encouraged to upload both the PDF and an alternative format like HTML. In other words, we're not relying on Ally to create the alternative format for STEM content.</div><div>To be clear, no matter how 'accessible' a PDF file is, the maths in it is not accessible to assistive technologies at the moment. This may change in the future. </div><div>Hence the need to start with a good workflow where the original file is in a good state so alternative formats can easily be created from it. </div><div dir="ltr">Hope that helps.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Regards<div><b>Lilian</b></div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Lilian Joy </span><br></div><div>Educational Adviser</div><div><font size="1"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Tel: 01904 321177 </span></font></div><div><font size="1"><a href="https://twitter.com/uoy_tel" target="_blank">@uoy_tel</a> <span style="background-color:rgb(250,250,250);color:rgba(0,0,0,0.87);font-family:"Roboto Slab","Times New Roman",serif;white-space:pre-wrap"> | </span><a href="https://elearningyork.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">PDLT site</a> | <a href="https://www.york.ac.uk/about/equality/accessibility/digital-accessibility/" target="_blank">Digital Accessibility site</a> </font><span style="font-size:x-small">| <a href="https://elearningyork.wpcomstaging.com/about/lilian-soon/" target="_blank">My presentations and posts</a></span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-size:x-small">Programme Design and Learning Technology Team</span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px"><font size="1"><a href="https://www.york.ac.uk/about/legal-statements/email-disclaimer/" target="_blank">Email disclaimer</a></font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 06:38, Matthew Deeprose <<a href="mailto:M.Deeprose@soton.ac.uk">M.Deeprose@soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1291683156194776602">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">In my experience, Ally doesn’t offer much for STEM out of the box.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">For example it won’t render content created using the Microsoft Equation editor at all, it just ignores it and doesn’t reproduce it in its alternate formats.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">And in cases where you use superscript or subscript in standard text, for example kW = 10<sup>3
</sup>W, Ally will render it as kW = 103<sup> </sup>W in its alternative formats.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">We’re working on creating a workflow to prepare files for example from a tex/Latex source into a format which will then perform well with Ally’s alternative formats.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Matt<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> 21 November 2022 16:24<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Ally for digital STEM course content<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Hello,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(34,34,34)">We are considering implementing Ally to assist us with monitoring and improvement of digital course content. We've had a chance to test the tool in a test environment but would love to hear
from universities who use Ally specifically on how it performs with STEM content. For example, have you used it successfully to make math or engineering content accessible to screen reader users? Or does that type of content still require significant human
intervention in most cases to be made accessible?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Thanks! <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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