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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Cambria,serif;color:rgb(31,56,100)">I use both knives and a mandolin. I went to a local restaurant cooking evening where I was taught how to use a knife correctly. I feel a
 lot safer now when cutting things versus using the mandolin. I use the mandolin with a “cut proof glove” which works well.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Cambria,serif;color:rgb(31,56,100)">Not sure if they are equal. Not sure how to cut a cabbage with a mandolin? Haven’t tried. As someone who uses both, they have different
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Cambria,serif;color:rgb(31,56,100)">I think this would require a modification to the course. How do you cut meat with a mandolin? I would think you have to have knife skills
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello, I don't know what a mandolin is, but I use knives in my kitchen all the time and I'm totally blind.  I'm always chopping up onions, peppers, whatever I want to put in my casseroles.  I've had several people observe me cooking before
 and they did seem nervous at first, but it ended up being a valuable learning experience for them.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 5:13 PM Normajean.Brand <<a href="mailto:normajean.brand@hccs.edu" target="_blank">normajean.brand@hccs.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,56,100)">I have a student with low vision in culinary program wants to use a mandolin/slicer in lieu of the knife
 skills portion of the course as an accommodation. I’ve had 2 blind students (blind since early age) who successfully graduated from the culinary program without an accommodation for the knife skills portion of the courses, and 2 other low vision who were also
 successful. One you may have heard of, if you follow any cooking shows, is Christine Ha.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,56,100)">I do understand that each person’s experience with their vision is different and dependent on many factors,
 but should I be worried about the risk factors of using a mandolin vs a knife? Should we think about the mandolin, which other students wouldn’t have access to, be an alteration of the essential course objectives?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,56,100)">In a former career, I saw the aftermath of what a mandolin can do but also what damage knifework can
 do as well. Not pretty. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,56,100)">Just needing some collective thoughts and guidance in advance.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,56,100)">Thank you!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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