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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">Karen, this was one of the suggestions I had – use a safety cut-proof glove on the non-dominant hand regardless of mandoline or knife. You see fish mongers
and oyster shuckers use them all the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">Thank you everyone for your thoughts and suggestions, especially those of you who are blind and use knives safely!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Karen Latimer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 24, 2023 8:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Needing advice on student with low vision<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Couldn't some of this be mitigated with just a cut-proof glove on the non-dominant hand?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 5:47 AM Karen McCall <<a href="mailto:K4mccall@outlook.com">K4mccall@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">I use both knives and a mandolin. I went to a local restaurant cooking evening where I was taught how to
use a knife correctly. I feel a lot safer now when cutting things versus using the mandolin. I use the mandolin with a “cut proof glove” which works well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">Not sure if they are equal. Not sure how to cut a cabbage with a mandolin? Haven’t tried. As someone who
uses both, they have different purposes in the kitchen.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">I think this would require a modification to the course. How do you cut meat with a mandolin? I would think
you have to have knife skills for several thing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">Cheers, Karen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Spangler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 23, 2023 8:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Needing advice on student with low vision<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hello, I don't know what a mandolin is, but I use knives in my kitchen all the time and I'm totally blind. I'm always chopping up onions, peppers, whatever I want to put in my
casseroles. I've had several people observe me cooking before and they did seem nervous at first, but it ended up being a valuable learning experience for them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 5:13 PM Normajean.Brand <<a href="mailto:normajean.brand@hccs.edu" target="_blank">normajean.brand@hccs.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">Hello Hive!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">I have a student with low vision in culinary program wants to use a mandolin/slicer in lieu of the knife
skills portion of the course as an accommodation. I’ve had 2 blind students (blind since early age) who successfully graduated from the culinary program without an accommodation for the knife skills portion of the courses, and 2 other low vision who were also
successful. One you may have heard of, if you follow any cooking shows, is Christine Ha.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F3864"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">I do understand that each person’s experience with their vision is different and dependent on many factors,
but should I be worried about the risk factors of using a mandolin vs a knife? Should we think about the mandolin, which other students wouldn’t have access to, be an alteration of the essential course objectives?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">In a former career, I saw the aftermath of what a mandolin can do but also what damage knifework can
do as well. Not pretty. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">Just needing some collective thoughts and guidance in advance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">Thank you!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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