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<b>Subject:</b> [EXT]Re: [Athen] Needing advice on student with low vision<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Susan,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I do understand that and respect that, their asking me my thoughts. I punted it back to them with ‘is it essential to know knife
skills? Are all the students being graded on the precision of their knife skills when dicing, slicing, etc. and is it appropriate to use a mandolin or chopper slicer that would make those dices, slices perfectly every time when someone using a knife might
not make perfect dices or slices?’ And a host of other questions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m trying to think of other things they might or should consider when it comes to knife skills or using other equipment that might
be deemed dangerous or questionable. I’ve seen some amazing chefs and home cooks who have limited vision do some incredible and edible things with food.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 23, 2023 4:13 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Needing advice on student with low vision<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My understanding is that you don’t get to make the decision on “essential course objectives” or “core competencies.” That is up to the instructor.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Normajean.Brand<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 23, 2023 3:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ATHEN <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Needing advice on student with low vision<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">Hello Hive!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">I have a student with low vision in culinary program wants to use a mandolin/slicer in lieu of the knife skills portion of the course as an accommodation.
I’ve had 2 blind students (blind since early age) who successfully graduated from the culinary program without an accommodation for the knife skills portion of the courses, and 2 other low vision who were also successful. One you may have heard of, if you
follow any cooking shows, is Christine Ha. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">I do understand that each person’s experience with their vision is different and dependent on many factors, but should I be worried about the risk factors
of using a mandolin vs a knife? Should we think about the mandolin, which other students wouldn’t have access to, be an alteration of the essential course objectives?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">In a former career, I saw the aftermath of what a mandolin can do but also what damage knifework can do as well. Not pretty.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">Just needing some collective thoughts and guidance in advance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro",sans-serif;color:#1F3864">NJ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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