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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I understand that extracting the EPUB as XHTML is a solid approach, but the publisher files can be segmented into many different files, e.g., one file per print page. Normally one chapter per file is common, but not always. For this reason, I would suggest using the TextHelp EPUB reader, which “should” present a coherent interface to the publication. Happy to help off line if useful. We also run epubtest.org, where the EPUB reading systems are tested for accessibility.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>George<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua Hori<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 10, 2023 3:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: EPUB to HTML issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Have you tried reading the page using R&W’s browser plugin? I believe that’s a better experience reading web pages than using the desktop app. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>If I recall correctly, you have to highlight content within the web page when using the desktop app, not so with the browser plug-in. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Joshua<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=mail-editor-reference-message-container><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> on behalf of <a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com">foreigntype@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com">foreigntype@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, July 10, 2023 at 11:36 AM<br><b>To: </b>Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: EPUB to HTML issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Robertl<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Try adding another step to this process and see if/how it works: Following George's e-pub to XHTM, which you report as read sufficiently well by JAWS and NVDA but not in R&W, take the XHTML file and SAVE AS PDF. R&W reads PDF files OK. Not sure if any extra revisions might be necessary, but this extra SAVE AS PDF step might be enough to produce a file that R&W can read well enough for your purposes.Let us know if this works.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wink<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wink Harner<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The Foreign Type<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Portland OR<br><a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com" target="_blank">foreigntype@gmail.com</a><br>480-984-0034<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata .<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 10:58 AM Robert Beach <<a href="mailto:rbeach@kckcc.edu">rbeach@kckcc.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Yes, that is how I extracted the files. While JAWS and NVDA reads the files fine, Read&Write does not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>Robert Lee Beach</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>Assistive Technology Specialist</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'> – Student Accessibility & Support Services</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>Kansas City Kansas Community College</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'><a href="mailto:rbeach@kckcc.edu" target="_blank">rbeach@kckcc.edu</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Roboto'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:kerscher@montana.com" target="_blank">kerscher@montana.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 10, 2023 8:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXT]Re: [Athen] EPUB to HTML issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:solid #0054A6 1.5pt;padding:4.0pt 0in 4.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:center;background:#F9E699'><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#FD542E'>CAUTION:</span></strong><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to <a href="mailto:support@kckcc.edu" target="_blank"><span style='font-weight:normal'>support@kckcc.edu</span></a>.</span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>A few thoughts:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>It could be how you extracted. You can rename .epub to .zip and unzip it. The content documents are in XHTML and should open in any browser.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Secondly, if the EPUB is from a source that protects the files, they may be encrypted, which of course would cause problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>George<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Beach<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 10, 2023 7:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] EPUB to HTML issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Twice now I have extracted the HTML files from an EPUB book but Read&Write was not able to read it. I tried opening the files in Chrome and Edge with no luck. I was able to get the reader in Edge to read the content and my screen reader would read it fine, but not Read&Write. Any ideas why?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>Robert Lee Beach</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>Assistive Technology Specialist</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'> – Student Accessibility & Support Services</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>Kansas City Kansas Community College</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'>O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Roboto'><a href="mailto:rbeach@kckcc.edu" target="_blank">rbeach@kckcc.edu</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Roboto'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a><br><a href="http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list" target="_blank">http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></body></html>