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It is not integrated <span class=GramE>as of yet</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>George<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ali Steenis via athen-list<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 9, <span class=GramE>2024</span> 11:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> Hayward, Elizabeth <e.hayward2@snhu.edu>; Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] ChatGPT accessibility<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi all, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>It is not quite the same as Chat GPT but I have been using <a href="https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/introducing-be-my-ai">Be My AI</a> and <a href="https://www.seeingai.com/">Seeing AI</a> to help with image descriptions, navigation, and descriptions of my surroundings as a blind traveler. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>These have been game changers for a lot of my blind friends and for me to access visual content. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Looking forward to hearing more from others. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Warmly, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Ali Steenis<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Pronouns: she/hers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Alternative Formats Access Specialist, Disability Resource Center (DRC) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>3000 Landerholm Circle SE, Room U001 </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Bellevue, WA 98007 </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Phone: (425)-564-</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>2605</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>TTY: (425)-564-6189 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>FAX: (425)-564-5110 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:drc@belevuecollege.edu"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>drc@bellevuecollege.edu</span></a></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://bellevuecollege.edu/drc"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>www.bellevuecollege.edu/drc</span></a></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>This email and any files transmitted may contain confidential information as protected by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), 20 USC § 1232g and/or Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. § 2510-2521. 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Furthermore, if you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately by telephone or return e-mail and completely delete this message from your system. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-outline-level:1'><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hayward, Elizabeth via athen-list<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 9, 2024 10:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] ChatGPT accessibility<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:solid #9C6500 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt;background:#FFEB9C'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#9C6500'>CAUTION:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> This email originated from outside Bellevue College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. If you are unsure, contact the Service Desk at x4357 (425-564-4357) or email <a href="mailto:servicedesk@bellevuecollege.edu">servicedesk@bellevuecollege.edu</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>As a tool for accessibility, ChatGPT has a lot of opportunities. Thanks for the reference to its alt text feature, Tamara.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Gian, we’ve not yet been successful locating ANY accessibility information (VPAT/ACR) on generative AI platforms like ChatGPT. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Would love to know if anyone has tested ChatGPT for accessibility or has access to vendor VPAT/Accessibility Conformance Reports for any of them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Has anyone here encountered any GenAI tools that were “built accessible” from their inception -- whose design/development teams actively focused on accessible/WCAG 2.1AA-compliant user interactions? Any gen AI vendors who have published accessibility statements?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Following this thread with interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Elizabeth Hayward</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>CPACC, MBA, MA<b><br></b>Digital Accessibility Manager, ITS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Southern New Hampshire University</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><br><span style='color:blue'><a href="http://www.snhu.edu/">snhu.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-outline-level:1'><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mariotti, Tamara via athen-list<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 9, 2024 1:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Eileen Berger <<a href="mailto:eileenberger33@gmail.com">eileenberger33@gmail.com</a>>; Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>>; Gian Wild <<a href="mailto:gian@accessibilityoz.com">gian@accessibilityoz.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] ChatGPT accessibility<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Has an awesome alternative text feature for photos and graphs, etc. I’ve used it for that recently. <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/chatgpt.com/g/g-bqbZtTpHb-alt-text-generator-assistant__;!!BeImMA!6f4w2S57ptMprxhuFNa_CVVFuQwwd2IAq1lv9rqT3D2MP8DiXFuDuC8rraDVfT6WLns7lSp6n1OGJSFNx6SuaG-xnItKOGs$">https://chatgpt.com/g/g-bqbZtTpHb-alt-text-generator-assistant</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Tamara Mariotti<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-outline-level:1'><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eileen Berger via athen-list<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Gian Wild <<a href="mailto:gian@accessibilityoz.com">gian@accessibilityoz.com</a>>; Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] ChatGPT accessibility<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Does anyone use ChatGPT, perplexity or other generative AI tools in providing accessibility or determining accessibility for students with disabilities?<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Eileen Berger<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>ADOSA/ADSAdmin.Harvard GSE/ret.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Co-Author/ co-editor “Crucial Collaborations, A Practical Framework to ensure Access, Equity, and Inclusion for Students with Disabilities” 2024<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Oct 9, 2024, at 1:28<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM, Gian Wild via athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'></span> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi ATHEN<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Does anyone have any experience with the accessibility of ChatGPT, or been able to find a VPAT?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Gian<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='color:#006666;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#006666;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Gian Wild, CEO</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#D05C12;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>AccessibilityOz</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Company Twitter:</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> @accessibilityoz</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Email:</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> <a href="mailto:gian@accessibilityoz.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>gian@accessibilityoz.com</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list__;!!BeImMA!6f4w2S57ptMprxhuFNa_CVVFuQwwd2IAq1lv9rqT3D2MP8DiXFuDuC8rraDVfT6WLns7lSp6n1OGJSFNx6SuaG-xXcRaPU8$">http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>