[Athen] FW: AT initiative (your attention please)

[E.A. Draffan]

Bit late in the day but I have been catching up - Pratik and I were
discussing open source CMS and e-learning or distance learning issues and
the problems of evaluations. I feel it would be wonderful to collaborate on
some of this work to make it easier for us all.  We have PAS 78 in the UK a
"Guide to good practice in commissioning accessible websites"
http://www.drc-gb.org/library/website_accessibility_guidance/pas_78.aspx
and ISO 9241-171
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/PublicWebsite/public_s
acstandards.hcsp

Best Wishes E.A.

Mrs E.A. Draffan
Assistive Technologist
Mobile: 07976 289103 
http://www.emptech.info/

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces at athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 5:52 PM
To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: AT initiative (your attention please)

This was one of the topics of discussion at the CSUN meeting and we can move
forward fairly easily.  I have the evaluation checklists that my program
developed at OSU and I am more than willing to share, and I bet several of
you have similar things.

Bob is this something you are willing to take the lead on?  Folks who were
at the CSUN-ATHEN meeting, how do you see this fitting into our taskforce
conversation?

Ron Stewart

-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces at athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Kraus
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:22 AM
To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] FW: AT initiative (your attention please)

One solution would be to set up a Wiki where ATHEN members, or maybe a
select group of testers from within ATHEN could review products for
accessibility. 
You could come up with a template that rates various areas of software
accessibility (something like a VPAT?).  That way an "accessibility tester"
can add comments to a particular area of the review as opposed to doing a
full-blown test of the software. 
Collectively you could build up quite a resource of unbiased reviews of
software.

Greg Kraus

LecShare, Inc.
www.lecshare.com


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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Kenneth Sawicki [mailto:ksawicki at avc.edu]

> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:45 AM

> To: Alternate Media

> Subject: RE: AT initiative

> 

> I wasn't here yesterday, but what Bob is saying hits the mark... I've 

> been thinking of doing something like that, and perhaps I should quit 

> thinking about doing something, and do it!!! I'm soooo tired of 

> reading, or hearing, "this Assistive Technology is totally accessible, 

> or is Section 508 compliant", and I try to use it, and can't..., And I 

> don't think it's my inability to use Assistive Technology.

> 

> -Ken

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Ron Stewart

> [mailto:ron.stewart at dolphinusa.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:58 AM

> To: Alternate Media

> Subject: RE: AT initiative

> 

> That conversation has come up repeatedly and was part of the 

> discussion when Section 508 was on the horizon many moons ago. NIST 

> refused to step up to the plate or was too expensive.  We really do 

> need a form of UL labs for access.  Let the buyer beware, but I am 

> really tired of back of the bus access!

> 

> One of my common policy recommendation to the collleges and 

> universities that I have worked with in the last decade is that access 

> be part of their own institutional branding of web spaces.

> 

> This needs to be an internal process because in order for it to work 

> there has to be ownership.  I be!ieve AFB has a certification program, 

> but it is VI centric, and does not deal effectively with cognitive 

> precessing related disabiities.

> 

> Ron

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rmartinengo at gmail.com

> To: "Alternate Media"

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> Sent: 3/27/07 10:30 AM

> Subject: RE: AT initiative

> 

> Ron,

> 

> Sadly, it appears the main selling point for these programs is that 

> they measure legal and technical compliance, rather than what is truly 

> accessible and usable - quantatative versus qualitative analysis.

> 

> Wouldn't it be great if there was a 'good housekeeping' stamp of 

> accessibility that was more than an automated list of check points?

> Perhaps

> a nonprofit group that would combine the benefits of technical 

> compliance with real-world usability analysis. Someone should start 

> this company!

> 

> Bob

> 

> 

> "And this does nothing to insure the accessibility of their sites, 

> someone must be laffing all the way to the bank. We have discussed the 

> use of automated evaluators on every disability list that I am one, 

> and why the do not insure access. You can not just throw money and 

> technology at the problem."

> 

> Ron Stewart

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