[Athen] Rw: Elluminate

[Saroj Primlani]

Eileen,
If you are looking for someone to caption an Elluminate session, 
Bill Courtland, I have attended sessions captioned by him.  He uses VR
products (Dragon, ViaVoice) as well as stenography software tools to
integrate with Elluminate to provide real-time captions,  
Contact information:
broadcaster at ibsu.net
Cell 805.368.2802
Saroj


_________________________________ 
Saroj Primlani 
Coordinator of University IT Accessibility 
Office of Information Technology
919 513 4087 
http://ncsu.edu/it/access 


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Today's Topics:

   1. sorry (Howard Kramer)
   2. Re: Capturing Information on a Board (E.A. Draffan)
   3. Re: Capturing Information on a Board (Shelley Haven)
   4. Re: Capturing Information on a Board (Wink Harner)
   5. ellumenate (eileen berger)
   6. Re: ellumenate (Sean Keegan)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:01:14 -0700
From: Howard Kramer <Howard.Kramer at Colorado.EDU>
Subject: [Athen] sorry
To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'"
	<athen at athenpro.org>
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Sorry - didn't mean to send that last e-mail to the whole group.

 

-Howard

 

Howard Kramer
Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator
AT Conference Coordinator
Disability Services
CU-Boulder, 107 UCB
Boulder, Co  80309
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:34:36 -0000
From: "E.A. Draffan" <ea at emptech.info>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Capturing Information on a Board
To: "'Wink Harner'" <wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu>,	"'Access
	Technologists in Higher Education Network'" <athen at athenpro.org>
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Oh wow thank you so much Wink, I feel a strategy document coming on as a
result of this unless there is one already available!   

Best wishes E.A. 




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:00:19 -0800
From: Shelley Haven <rmhaven at stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Capturing Information on a Board
To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network
	<athen at athenpro.org>
Message-ID: <p06230904c3e27b0346d8@[192.168.1.77]>
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To augment Wink's comments and address E.A.'s queries, mimio 
handwriting recognition (Windows version only) is "adequate" but will 
undoubtedly require editing just like any alt-formatted material. 
(Most people don't write as legibly on a board as they do on paper.) 
You can grab the material in real-time and select "Recognize Ink" to 
immediately change the display, convert ink to text after the fact on 
a saved board, or add text to a saved board with a typed annotation 
(just like adding a text box).

In addition to JPEG, PNG, HTML and several other formats, these mimio 
boards can be saved directly as PDF files to the connected computer 
-- no conversion necessary.  If the monitor for that "connected 
computer" happens to be an LCD projector, and the image is projected 
back to the whiteboard, you have the equivalent of a SmartBoard 
interactive whiteboard.  So you can project PowerPoint slides or a 
webpage, annotate with mimio, then save the results as a PDF.

I just tried this with my personal mimio and used both Kurzweil and 
WYNN to scan and OCR the saved PDF.  As you might expect, the results 
depend a lot on the source material and the resolution (I'm not sure 
about mimio's maximum resolution).  A colorful webpage with 
less-than-ideal contrasts, lots of fonts, and inverted text produces 
less than satisfactory results.  A PowerPoint with consistent (and 
larger) fonts might work OK.

As for math...mimio won't convert equations satisfactorily.

Hope this helps (or at least gets the wheels turning!).

- Shelley Haven



>Thanks for the good wishes, E. I tore a tendon in my knee (driving knee no

>less!) and had it repaired last week. It's well on the way to mending. I

>already have cabin fever, so the recuperation is going along nicely. Will

>be back to work and thundering speed next week.

>

>In my poking around, I found some interesting ideas to pursue in re both

>smart board & mimio. Both offer a handwriting recognition plug in which

would

>also allow a projection (PPT etc.) on the board to have comments written

>ON it and saved as text rather than images. Don't know how accurate it may

>be, but also I found these conversion programs which may help in the

process:

>Image Converter Plus (appx. $49), Universal Document Converter ($69) and

>'Convert Image to PDF' from Softinterface Inc. (free download), the JPEG,

>TIFF or GIF files can be converted to PDF and a screen reader can be used.

>If the conversion is to text, again there is a choice of refreshable

Braille

>or hardcopy Braille. I do not know how easy it would be to convert math,

>but with MathType and MathSpeak software, it would be a worthy experiment

>to find out!

>

>My daffodils are blooming today and I am going to take photos before it

rains.

>

>Blessings

>

>Wink

>

>

>>-- Original Message --

>>From: "E.A. Draffan" <ea at emptech.info>

>>To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" 

>><athen at athenpro.org>,

>>

>>	<norm.coombs at gmail.com>

>>Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:04 -0000

>>Subject: Re: [Athen] Capturing Information on a Board

>>Reply-To: ea at emptech.info, Access Technologists in Higher Education

Network

>>	<athen at athenpro.org>

>>

>>

>>Hope you are making a full recovery Wink and all is well.  I would also

>be

>>interested to learn how you separate or add text with the images in an

>>accessible way from digital white boards unless it is part of the original

>>presentation?  It is the same dilemma I have been trying to think about

>when

>>students have OneNote files for organising all their ideas.

>>

>>Best wishes E.A.

>>

>>Mrs E.A. Draffan

>>Learning Societies Lab,

>>ECS, University of Southampton,

>>Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246

>>http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk

>>http://www.emptech.info

>>

>>

>Ms. Wink Harner

>Manager

>Disability Resources & Services

>Mesa Community College

>Mesa AZ

>

>480-461-7447

>

>

>

>

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:03:37 -0700
From: "Wink Harner" <wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Capturing Information on a Board
To: "Access Technologists in Higher Education Network"
	<athen at athenpro.org>
Message-ID: <479AE6BF000039ED at email3.dist.maricopa.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Shelley

Did you try saving anything as MHTML and trying it with MathType/MathTalk?

Wink


>-- Original Message --

>Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:00:19 -0800

>To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network <athen at athenpro.org>

>From: Shelley Haven <rmhaven at stanford.edu>

>Subject: Re: [Athen] Capturing Information on a Board

>Reply-To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network

<athen at athenpro.org>

>

>

>To augment Wink's comments and address E.A.'s queries, mimio 

>handwriting recognition (Windows version only) is "adequate" but will 

>undoubtedly require editing just like any alt-formatted material. 

>(Most people don't write as legibly on a board as they do on paper.) 

>You can grab the material in real-time and select "Recognize Ink" to 

>immediately change the display, convert ink to text after the fact on 

>a saved board, or add text to a saved board with a typed annotation 

>(just like adding a text box).

>

>In addition to JPEG, PNG, HTML and several other formats, these mimio 

>boards can be saved directly as PDF files to the connected computer 

>-- no conversion necessary.  If the monitor for that "connected 

>computer" happens to be an LCD projector, and the image is projected 

>back to the whiteboard, you have the equivalent of a SmartBoard 

>interactive whiteboard.  So you can project PowerPoint slides or a 

>webpage, annotate with mimio, then save the results as a PDF.

>

>I just tried this with my personal mimio and used both Kurzweil and 

>WYNN to scan and OCR the saved PDF.  As you might expect, the results 

>depend a lot on the source material and the resolution (I'm not sure 

>about mimio's maximum resolution).  A colorful webpage with 

>less-than-ideal contrasts, lots of fonts, and inverted text produces 

>less than satisfactory results.  A PowerPoint with consistent (and 

>larger) fonts might work OK.

>

>As for math...mimio won't convert equations satisfactorily.

>

>Hope this helps (or at least gets the wheels turning!).

>

>- Shelley Haven

>

>

>>Thanks for the good wishes, E. I tore a tendon in my knee (driving knee

>no

>>less!) and had it repaired last week. It's well on the way to mending.

I

>>already have cabin fever, so the recuperation is going along nicely. Will

>>be back to work and thundering speed next week.

>>

>>In my poking around, I found some interesting ideas to pursue in re both

>>smart board & mimio. Both offer a handwriting recognition plug in which

>would

>>also allow a projection (PPT etc.) on the board to have comments written

>>ON it and saved as text rather than images. Don't know how accurate it

may

>>be, but also I found these conversion programs which may help in the

process:

>>Image Converter Plus (appx. $49), Universal Document Converter ($69) and

>>'Convert Image to PDF' from Softinterface Inc. (free download), the JPEG,

>>TIFF or GIF files can be converted to PDF and a screen reader can be used.

>>If the conversion is to text, again there is a choice of refreshable

Braille

>>or hardcopy Braille. I do not know how easy it would be to convert math,

>>but with MathType and MathSpeak software, it would be a worthy experiment

>>to find out!

>>

>>My daffodils are blooming today and I am going to take photos before it

>rains.

>>

>>Blessings

>>

>>Wink

>>

>>

>>>-- Original Message --

>>>From: "E.A. Draffan" <ea at emptech.info>

>>>To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'" 

>>><athen at athenpro.org>,

>>>

>>>	<norm.coombs at gmail.com>

>>>Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:04 -0000

>>>Subject: Re: [Athen] Capturing Information on a Board

>>>Reply-To: ea at emptech.info, Access Technologists in Higher Education

Network

>>>	<athen at athenpro.org>

>>>

>>>

>>>Hope you are making a full recovery Wink and all is well.  I would also

>>be

>>>interested to learn how you separate or add text with the images in an

>>>accessible way from digital white boards unless it is part of the

original

>>>presentation?  It is the same dilemma I have been trying to think about

>>when

>>>students have OneNote files for organising all their ideas.

>>>

>>>Best wishes E.A.

>>>

>>>Mrs E.A. Draffan

>>>Learning Societies Lab,

>>>ECS, University of Southampton,

>>>Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246

>>>http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk

>>>http://www.emptech.info

>>>

>>>

>>Ms. Wink Harner

>>Manager

>>Disability Resources & Services

>>Mesa Community College

>>Mesa AZ

>>

>>480-461-7447

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>_______________________________________________

>>Athen mailing list

>>Athen at athenpro.org

>>http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org

>

>

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Ms. Wink Harner
Manager
Disability Resources & Services
Mesa Community College
Mesa AZ

480-461-7447






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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:05:57 -0500
From: eileen berger <bergerei at gse.harvard.edu>
Subject: [Athen] ellumenate
To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network
	<athen at athenpro.org>
Message-ID: <76738C1095371CB74241FAC4 at larseng05-2>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Hi -
Does anyone have experience with using dragon dictate version 9 with 
ellumenate?
If a student accessing ellumenate is hearing impaired we need the 
"captioning feature " of dragon or perhaps another software solution to 
dictate the faculty lecture along with his voice? Nuance claims it has been 
done but without the how to/s. Our IT department would appreciate any 
suggestions.
Thanks,
Eileen Berger






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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:16:35 -0800
From: "Sean Keegan" <skeegan at htctu.net>
Subject: Re: [Athen] ellumenate
To: "'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'"
	<athen at athenpro.org>
Message-ID: <003a01c874be$47264dc0$99821299 at htctu.fhda.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi Eileen,


> Does anyone have experience with using dragon dictate version 9 with

ellumenate?

> If a student accessing ellumenate is hearing impaired we need the

"captioning 

> feature " of dragon or perhaps another software solution to dictate the

faculty 

> lecture along with his voice?


I do not think I understand the question.  Is the student using Dragon to
interact with Elluminate or does the student need to have captioning
provided?

I have participated in Elluminate sessions where captioning was provided (by
a real-time transcriber) and everything worked smooth.  A nice feature in
the Elluminate system was the capability to control the captioning window,
font sizes, and be able to immediately download the captioned file.

Take care,
Sean





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