[Athen] MathML

Tom Whalen twhalen at mesastate.edu
Mon Jun 8 06:47:52 PDT 2009


I wanted to note that my experience with MathType was less than favorable, although I was trying to create nemeth, as opposed to audio Math. Scientific Notebook did a far superior job, as MsthType rendered many errors in producing problem sets for a developmental Algebra class. I contacted the folks at Duxbury and they agreed that there were still some bugs in the transition from MathType to nemeth.


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1. Re: MathML (Ron Stewart)
2. online readiness surveys (Wink Harner)
3. Re: online readiness surveys (Paul Harpur)


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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:58:13 -0400
From: "Ron Stewart" <ron at ahead.org>
Subject: Re: [Athen] MathML
To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'"
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Cc: 'John Paul Harris' <John.P.Harris at Colorado.EDU>
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One more comment on this, I am moving totally away from Scientific Notebook
and entirely to MathType and Infty. The feedback I have been getting in the
last few months is that SN does not give a full enough symbol set. I would
like to hear from other perspectives on this.



Ron



From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces at athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:29 PM
To: athen at athenpro.org
Cc: John Paul Harris
Subject: [Athen] mathml



I had to play with this quite a bit this year- we were not getting very
good results. We were creating the LATex with Scientific Notebook, then
ended putting it into Nemeth despite our student's preference, because she
was not able to get JAWS to read the MathML we created this way. The MathML
rendered correctly visually but did not read right with MathPlayer or with
Mozilla (Opera still has some major rendering bugs - errors - evidently).



However, I was able to get both Read and Write and JAWS to read the the
MathML at http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/



Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you can get good
MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS friendly at that point
(Firefox 3.0). From the above listed page.

---SNIP----

"Posts with this logo use MathML. To see the equations, you either need
Mozilla or a MathML plugin for IE/Win. You will also need to install some
fonts.

The posts were authored in itex (an extension of WebTeX) using the itexToMML
Text Filter plugin for MovableType (the README file). "



Hope there is other good news out there on this front!



Best,

Cath



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Cath Stager-Kilcommons

Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator

Disability Services

332 Willard Administration Bldg.

University of Colorado at Boulder

303-492-4049

http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices/



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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:31:44 -0700
From: "Wink Harner" <wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu>
Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys
To: "ATHEN" <athen at athenpro.org>, DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU
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Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs,

Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your
students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online
classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project
for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty
from a student readiness perspective.

Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance
for your collective wisdom.

Blessings in abundance,

Wink
Ms. Wink Harner
Manager
Disability Resources & Services
Mesa Community College
Mesa AZ
480-461-7447
wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu





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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:49:19 +1000
From: Paul Harpur <p.harpur at qut.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Athen] online readiness surveys
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen at athenpro.org>,
"DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU" <DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU>
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Gday Wink,

I?m totally blind so from a print disability perspective I found important questions were:

Is there a prescribed textbook and are the readings available electronically;
If they are color blind they should make sure they tell the professor so they can avoid putting green and reed on power points;
If the professor is referring to power points ask the professor to either make the power points available before class or make sure they read out the content in the class.

I?m now in academia but some problems I find other students have are:
Not all rooms have sufficient power sockets for every laptop so I used to carry a power board;
Make sure the student can access the website using their adaptive technology. If they are not up to speed with that they are in major problems. There are people who can provide training on adaptive technology and it is great to get trained.
Leave sufficient time to get mobilized around campus.

I attach a short manual I developed for law students at my university,

Paul.



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From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org [athen-bounces at athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink Harner [wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu]
Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:31 AM
To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU
Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys

Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs,

Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your
students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online
classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project
for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty
from a student readiness perspective.

Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance
for your collective wisdom.

Blessings in abundance,

Wink
Ms. Wink Harner
Manager
Disability Resources & Services
Mesa Community College
Mesa AZ
480-461-7447
wink.harner at mcmail.maricopa.edu



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