[Athen] Dragon Installation Order

Pratik Patel pratikp1 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 2 13:02:17 PST 2010

Hello Gaeir,

The issue you're seeing is because of Microsoft's "Mirror Driver" technology
that screen readers and magnification software use in Vista and Win 7. This
replaces the display chaining tech that was used in XP. While there is no
specific order for installing AT software as it was in XP, there are still
significant down sides to the Mirror Driver scheme. One of these downsides
is that it disables the Window Arrow UI interface. This, in turn, disables
the pretty effects that you see in several programs and in Windows. I
suspect that DNS uses Windows arrow to show those green arrows in IE 8.
Microsoft is planning to change the Mirror Driver tech to a new Direct 2d
model in the new Windows. In fact, it has already started to incorporate
D2D in software such as its IE 9 Beta.

Hope this helps.



-----Original Message-----
From: athen-bounces at athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces at athenpro.org] On
Behalf Of Gaeir Dietrich
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:29 PM
To: 'Dan Comden'
Cc: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon Installation Order

My bad, I was unclear.

(1) It is not the install order with IE but with other AT. Dragon installed
first with other AT (ZoomText, JAWS, Kurzweil) works.

(2) What does not work in IE is the green arrows that Dragon uses to show
where icons, hyperlinks, buttons, edit boxes, etc. can be selected.


Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich
High Tech Center Training Unit of the
California Community Colleges
De Anza College, Cupertino, CA


-----Original Message-----
From: danc at uw.edu [mailto:danc at uw.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Comden
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:21 AM
To: gdietrich at htctu.net; Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Dragon Installation Order

I'm curious how one can get an install of Win7 without IE already
included. Is the tech saying that IE must be removed and then
reinstalled after NatSpeak?

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Gaeir Dietrich <gdietrich at htctu.net> wrote:


> Hi all!




> One of our AT specialists has found that with Dragon 11 on Windows 7,

> running IE 8, Dragon must be installed first in order to have full

> functionality of Dragon with IE. What are others of you finding? What

> install order are you using?

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