[Athen] Google books
Linda Petty
linda.petty at utoronto.ca
Thu Feb 9 11:25:02 PST 2012
Warning about Google books- a book may be listed there, but you then find some pages missing in various locations, I presume to protect copyright? Our son was told he could study a novel on Google books for an exam, rather than receive a copy of the actual book, but the pages referred to in the study notes were not available, just a greyed out note that "Pages 74 and 75 are not available"
Linda Petty, O.T. Reg.(ON)
AccessAbility Services
Univ. of Toronto at Scarborough
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:16:27 -0600
From: Robert Beach <rbeach at KCKCC.EDU>
Subject: RE: [Athen] Kindle software
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Oh man, I didn't even think about Google Books. I should have since I just listened to a presentation yesterday that mentioned Google Books as an option. Thanks for the idea.
Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS 66112
913-288-7671
rbeach at kckcc.edu
From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:56 AM
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Subject: RE: [Athen] Kindle software
If you go to the Kindle page for the book, you should be able to determine whether TTS is enabled. Each listing at least provides that information. If it's a complicated textbook, you'll have a hard time. Have you checked Google books? It's iOS app is actually very nice.
Pratik
From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu]<mailto:[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu]> On Behalf Of Robert Beach
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Subject: RE: [Athen] Kindle software
Hmmm, sounds rather gloomy. There is a book I need that is not available at any other resource (that I can find), but is available for the Kindle. Since it is a textbook and not a leasure read, I really would like to have at least paragraph navigation. Also, since I don't know if TTS is turned on or off in the book, I hate to go that route.
Thanks for the feed back.
Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS 66112
913-288-7671
rbeach at kckcc.edu<mailto:rbeach at kckcc.edu>
From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu]<mailto:[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu]> On Behalf Of Pratik Patel
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:31 AM
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Subject: RE: [Athen] Kindle software
Hello Robert,
There is a specific piece of software that can be downloaded for some accessible output. It hasn't been improved.
There are built-in voices that can be used to read out loud. You can use speed control. You can read page by page. You won't be able to read by paragraph, line, word, sentence, etc. There is no support for a screen reader to read the book; nor is there support for braille displays. For books that do not have TTS enabled, you will get no speech.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Pratik
From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu]<mailto:[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu]> On Behalf Of Robert Beach
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Subject: [Athen] Kindle software
Hello all,
I know this was discussed some time ago, but I need an update/reminder.
I know there is an accessibility patch for the Kindle software for PC that supposedly makes it work with JAWS. I also remember the reviews weren't very exciting when I first heard it discussed. What kind of luck are folks having with this setup? Have there been any improvements? What draw backs might I expect to find?
Thanks.
Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS 66112
913-288-7671
rbeach at kckcc.edu<mailto:rbeach at kckcc.edu>
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:15:46 -0500
From: "Kestrell" <kestrell at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Kindle software
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The software Accessible Kindle for PC is accessible with a screen reader, but only in the most basic way. You can't, for instance, read a word character by character in order to find out how something is spelled, and you can't read sentence by sentence or word by word. You can't use this program on anything other than a PC or laptop, so the reader is chained to a not-very-portable mode of reading.
I tried this program again just last week, and I find it frustrating enough that I rarely use it. Since the reader cannot find out how words or unfamiliar terms are spelled, I would say that it is not accessible enough to provide a fair level of access for any student who is trying to read a textbook for a course.
Kestrell
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From: Pratik Patel
To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: [Athen] Kindle software
Hello Robert,
There is a specific piece of software that can be downloaded for some accessible output. It hasn't been improved.
There are built-in voices that can be used to read out loud. You can use speed control. You can read page by page. You won't be able to read by paragraph, line, word, sentence, etc. There is no support for a screen reader to read the book; nor is there support for braille displays. For books that do not have TTS enabled, you will get no speech.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Pratik
From: athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Beach
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 9:30 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list at u.washington.edu)
Subject: [Athen] Kindle software
Hello all,
I know this was discussed some time ago, but I need an update/reminder.
I know there is an accessibility patch for the Kindle software for PC that supposedly makes it work with JAWS. I also remember the reviews weren't very exciting when I first heard it discussed. What kind of luck are folks having with this setup? Have there been any improvements? What draw backs might I expect to find?
Thanks.
Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS 66112
913-288-7671
rbeach at kckcc.edu
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