[Athen] RE: ALEKS

Ken Petri petri.1 at osu.edu
Sat Mar 16 14:00:39 PDT 2013

Hi Catherine,

For clarification, there is/was interest in ALEKS at OSU but I have never
met with them to discuss it.

As for the MathML not supported in browsers argument, I don't find that
valid. With MathJax I just don't think you can argue that MathML can't be
rendered. You can argue it can't be read in many screen reader/browser
combinations, and you'd be correct, but MathJax will render math visually
in all browsers that have JavaScript enabled -- which means pretty much all
browsers can render MathML, with some assistance from MathJax.

And if you're using MathPlayer in IE, all of the major Windows screen
readers will read the MathML pretty effectively. If the system were
producing both the rendered MathML and a LaTex fall-back, seems to me most
situations would be covered. (It is possible to get MathJax to show the TeX
version of equations and it can "hint" the MathML islands with TeX
equations, but I'm not sure how well this will work with a screen reader).
Oh, and MathPlayer does not seem to work at all in IE 10. So, some
problems, but not enough to "wait" until there is better browser support,


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On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Rangin, Hadi Bargi <hadi at illinois.edu>wrote:

> **

> Hi Cath,


> I love your idea and motivation for collaboration. It is definitely the

> right way to go.


> I know Ken was interested in accessibility of Aleks some time ago and he

> even initiated a kind of meeting with them. I was invited to the meeting

> but I don't exactly recall what has been decided for.


> I guess we are not using it here in our campus but I would be glad to

> collaborate and help in any way and shape I can.


> Thanks,

> Hadi



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> *From:* athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:

> athen-list-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Catherine M.

> Stager Kilcommons

> *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 6:33 PM

> *To:* athen-list at u.washington.edu

> *Subject:* [Athen] ALEKS


> Hello All,

> Yes, once again the ALEKS accessibility issues are coming under scrutiny

> here on campus.

> At this point we are curious if other institutions have been putting

> pressure on McGraw-Hill to make the exam more accessible.


> Would other folks be interested in collaborating on a multi university

> campaign of concern, not unlike what we did with Blackboard?


> With the support of tools such as Poet and DIAGRAM, is there validity in

> their argument of saying that they need to wait for MathML to have more

> browser support and adoption? Should that be the only solution for making

> this assessment platform accessible?


> Thanks for any and all comments,


> Cath Stager-Kilcommons

> Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator

> Disability Services / Office of Diversity, Equity, and Community Engagement

> N234 Center for Community

> University of Colorado Boulder

> 303-492-4049

> *http://DisabilityServices.Colorado.edu*<http://DisabilityServices.Colorado.edu>





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