[Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint

Gershman, Cindy cgershman at pima.edu
Tue Apr 8 11:26:14 PDT 2014


HI Angel,
Would you mind breaking that down as if for a 5-year-old? I really know nothing about Google mail.
Thanks for any help,
-Cindy

Cindy Gershman
Advanced Program Coordinator, Alt Format
Disabled Student Resources
Pima Community College
Tucson, AZ
520-206-6688
cgershman at pima.edu<mailto:cgershman at pima.edu>

From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Angel Chesimet
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:52 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint

A quick and easy fix to power points for jaws is to send it through Google mail. If you attach it to an email and open it using Google mail it gives you an option to converted to HTML. It's very clean and easy to read from then on. At this point you can also copy and paste it into word for editing during lectures.
Angel Chesimet
Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015
Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling
Portland State University
Mobile: 503-470-2626

On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Teresa Haven <Teresa.Haven at nau.edu<mailto:Teresa.Haven at nau.edu>> wrote:
Thanks, Paul. Karen also let me know that in a private email. What baffles me is the fact that JAWS was reading a couple of slides in almost perfect order, despite the reading order in the Selection Pane being completely different (and not just backwards of what I would have expected).
Cheers,
Teresa

From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:02 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint

Teresa,

Don’t miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, not top down like you’d expect.

-Paul

From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list at u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>)
Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint

Greetings, all. I’m attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft’s help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS – it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I “fixed” the reading order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS – nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides?

Thanks for your ideas,
Teresa

Teresa Haven, Ph.D.
Accessibility Analyst
Northern Arizona University
(928) 523-6042

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