[Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint

E.A.Draffan ea at emptech.info
Tue Apr 8 13:09:43 PDT 2014


This is a lovely strategy – please may I put it on LexDis? http://www.lexdis.org.uk/



I am just wondering if you get any joy with images, shapes, smart art and graphs when you have done the conversion - I suspect the person who has made the slides needs to be aware of the alt text provision as they add the items.



I really miss LecShare and still use the old version to check slides for accessibility. There are still some sites offering a download.



Best wishes

E.A.



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From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Angel Chesimet
Sent: 08 April 2014 20:03
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Cc: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint




:) sure. You attach the PowerPoint and send it to a Gmail account. You go to the web based version of Gmail to open the email with the attachment. When you open it there will be options to open as HTML or download and save it. You click the HTML option and it will open another browser page with the PowerPoint broken down as HTML. Because I am a jaws user I have my Gmail account set up as basic view so this might be something you would do to receive the attachment options. I'm not sure if the same options are offered in standard view Gmail web-based accounts.


Angel Chesimet

Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015

Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling

Portland State University

Mobile: 503-470-2626


On Apr 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Gershman, Cindy" <cgershman at pima.edu> wrote:

HI Angel,

Would you mind breaking that down as if for a 5-year-old? I really know nothing about Google mail.

Thanks for any help,

-Cindy



Cindy Gershman

Advanced Program Coordinator, Alt Format

Disabled Student Resources

Pima Community College

Tucson, AZ

520-206-6688

cgershman at pima.edu



From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Angel Chesimet
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:52 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint



A quick and easy fix to power points for jaws is to send it through Google mail. If you attach it to an email and open it using Google mail it gives you an option to converted to HTML. It's very clean and easy to read from then on. At this point you can also copy and paste it into word for editing during lectures.

Angel Chesimet

Graduate Candidate Spring, 2015

Clinical Rehabilitation Counseling

Portland State University

Mobile: 503-470-2626


On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Teresa Haven <Teresa.Haven at nau.edu> wrote:

Thanks, Paul. Karen also let me know that in a private email. What baffles me is the fact that JAWS was reading a couple of slides in almost perfect order, despite the reading order in the Selection Pane being completely different (and not just backwards of what I would have expected).

Cheers,

Teresa



From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Paul E. Paire
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:02 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint



Teresa,



Don’t miss that the reading order is bottom up in the Selection pane, not top down like you’d expect.



-Paul



From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Teresa Haven
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:54 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list at u.washington.edu)
Subject: [Athen] Reading Order in MS PowerPoint



Greetings, all. I’m attempting to retrofit a PPT presentation created by a colleague who, until recently, was unfamiliar with accessibility needs. This particular presentation has been a work in progress for many years and across many versions of PPT. One slide in particular has a lot of separate text elements that need to be read in order to make sense; when listening to it initially with JAWS, just a couple of items were read out of order so I attempted to clean that up (am in Office 2010 for Windows); according to Microsoft’s help site I should fix the reading order using Arrange>Selection Pane. When I viewed the reading order it was NOTHING like what I was hearing with JAWS – it looked completely random, despite the fact that JAWS was doing a pretty good job with the page. Well, I “fixed” the reading order in Selection Pane and now the slide is read as complete gibberish by JAWS – nothing is in order. Yes, I still have a copy of the original file and can go back, or I can re-create the slide from scratch, but does anyone have a suggestion for how to reliably repair reading order in PPT slides?



Thanks for your ideas,

Teresa



Teresa Haven, Ph.D.

Accessibility Analyst

Northern Arizona University

(928) 523-6042



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