[Athen] MathType/MathML questions

Emma Cliffe E.H.Cliffe at bath.ac.uk
Tue Jul 22 09:51:37 PDT 2014

Hi Susan,

Sorry for a second mail, that fixes the bug but leaves the footnote link
an empty string. You would also need to add something in to (from the
example below):
<a href="#_ftnref1"
name="_ftn1" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference">
<a href="#_ftnref1"
name="_ftn1" title="">link<span class="MsoFootnoteReference">
so that the footnote link was visible and clickable.

Kind regards,

On 22/07/2014 17:42, Emma Cliffe wrote:


> Dear Susan,


> If I understand it correctly running conversion to MathPage is using

> Word's conversion tools for some of the work. This is likely to be the

> issue with the page numbers, as far as I am aware Word does not

> convert headers or footers when converting to web formats. This was

> certainly true in Word 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/212270 and

> I imagine is still the case as one might ask what a header or footer

> is intended to be in this format since the whole document is converted

> to a single page - I understand why you want the numbers in this case

> but you'll have to include them a different way.


> I am running Word 2010 with MathType 6.9. The footnotes issue is only

> occurring in some conversions and I can explain what is happening and

> a nasty fix but it looks like a bug. Not sure whose bug though, could

> be Word or MathType. Publish to MathPage you have 5 options for MathML

> in 6.9 (fewer in earlier versions I imagine). Some of these will not

> trigger the bug but they may not be the format you want. Some will

> trigger the bug.

> 1. HTML + MathJax: Produces a .htm file with MathJax handling the

> rendering of MathML equations. Will not trigger the bug.

> 2. XHTML + MathJax: Produces a .xht file with MathJax handling the

> rendering of MathML equations. Will trigger the bug.

> 3. XHTML + MathML: Produces a .xht file with native rendering of the

> MathML equations. Will trigger the bug.

> 4. MathPlayer (IE behavior): Produces a .htm file with equations which

> will only be rendered by MathPlayer + IE<10. Will not trigger the bug.

> 5. Multi-browser (UMSS): Produces a .xht file with equations in MathML

> using the universal MathML style sheet. Will trigger the bug.


> The bug is that whenever you have a footnote the XML is incorrect and

> the bug is only occurring in the xht outputs so it is caused by

> whatever is responsible for producing the XML (Word?). E.g. you get:

> <p class="MsoFootnoteText"><a href="#_ftnref1"

> name="_ftn1" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><![if

> !supportFootnotes]><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span

> style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

> mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-theme-font:

> minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times

> New Roman";

> mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:

> EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA'>[1]</span></span><![endif]></span></a> <a

> href="http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/">http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/</a>

> </p>


> The incorrect portions are:

> <![if !supportFootnotes]> which should be <!--[if !supportFootnotes]>

> and

> <![endif]> which should be <![endif]-->


> The only way for you to fix this, that I am aware, is to open up the

> exported source in a suitable editor and hand fix all such errors or

> to write a script that does this for you.


> If anyone else has any ideas or comments on the above it would be

> great to hear them. If anyone knows for sure whether this is Word or

> MathType then we could also report the issue. I will try and follow it

> up with some contacts I have who may be able to shed some light but

> this could take some time.


> Kind regards,

> Emma


> On 22/07/2014 16:38, Susan Kelmer wrote:


>> We are getting a lot of requests for math of late, and this has not

>> been our strong point in production. So, we're still in a bit of a

>> learning mode. We've discovered a few things, and need some help.


>> When converting to MathPage after editing our Word document using

>> MathType, we are finding two problems:


>> a.We put page number in the header section of word documents as a

>> matter of routine. The page numbers disappear in the finalized

>> document, and we're not sure why.


>> b.If we have footnotes (we use the footnote function in Word to

>> create them), the output to MathPage fails.


>> None of us working on conversions (me or my student staff) are "math

>> people," so we are doing some struggling but making our way through.

>> If someone could help us with these two issues, we'd be grateful!


>> /Susan Kelmer/


>> /Alternate Format Coordinator/


>> /Disability Services/


>> /University of Colorado/


>> /303-735-4836/




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