[Athen] Alternate and Assistive

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On 7/28/2015 12:22 PM, Leyna Bencomo wrote:

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> The other industry standard I’ve heard for assistive is adaptive.  I 

> don’t think either are offensive.  Just my 1 cent.  ;)

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> Leyna Bencomo

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> *From:* athen-list 

> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of 

> *Susan Gjolmesli

> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12:18 PM

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> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Alternate and Assistive

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> I agree.  The barriers are not in the words necessarily.  I’ve been in 

> the field of disability for over 30 years and have seen trends come 

> and go…it’s the attitudes and bias and discrimination that remain.  As 

> John states, why mess with standard terminology?  It does totally 

> confuse the general population who are nob savvy enough to get the 

> nuances.

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> That’s my two cents as well.

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> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of 

> *John Elmer

> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:11 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Alternate and Assistive

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> I am not sure I agree with your premise.  Is that based on feedback to 

> that effect from students?

>

> To me, it embraces the model that a disability means something is 

> wrong/bad, that there is something to be ashamed of. It is a stigma.

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> Not the way I see it.

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> The terms are “industry” standards.  To arbitrarily rename them can 

> also create confusion.  Example:  Someone decided that our department 

> name should have no reference to disability.  We were renamed the 

> Educational Assistance Center.  People now thing we are the campus 

> “help desk”.  Further, if someone is looking for services for students 

> with disabilities in a directory or on a campus map, it’s not there.

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> My 2 cents.

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> John

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> *From:*athen-list 

> [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of 

> *Cyrus Hamilton

> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:01 AM

> *To:* ATHEN List

> *Subject:* [Athen] Alternate and Assistive

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> Good Afternoon:

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> I am researching alternate phrases for, “assistive technology”, and 

> “alternate formats”, and thought this would be an excellent forum for 

> the discussion. There’s a lot of meaning in words, and I feel that 

> “assistive” and “alternate” are words that can have the unintended 

> consequence of further stigmatizing individuals. I understand that 

> technically, all technology is assistive, but I think there has to be 

> a better way to identify technologies like VoiceDream, Kurzweil 3000, 

> and Dragon Naturally Speaking.  Am I over thinking this, or do others 

> share my concern? Thanks!

>

> -Cyrus

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> Cyrus Hamilton

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My take is that adapt means the THING is lacking something to reach 
everyone.
I think assistive means the person is inadequate and needs assistance.

Either way it is a mismatch between the thing and its user

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