[Athen] SPSS Version 22 access with JAWS Version 16

[David Andrews]

While I am not trying to undercut what you do 
here with this list, I wanted to make you aware 
of three other lists which might help out with R 
and statistics packages.  There is a blind R 
users Group list, 
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindrug_nfbnet.org to join.

There is also a list for blindness-related topics 
and mathematics, blindmath, 
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org

The NFB Science and Engineering division has a 
list at 
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-science_nfbnet.org 
and the NFB in computer Science has a list at 
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org

I lied, I said 3 and did four.  Sorry!

Dave

At 01:57 PM 8/19/2015, you wrote:

>Hi Jeff,

>

>We have also been looking into the stats world 

>(& thank you Teresa for your assistance!)

>

>The main accessible stats package (with severl 

>very strong advocates, anyway) is R. (Use R in 

>Terminal Mode.) There is a BrailleR extension to 

>produce automated text summaries of bar charts, etc:

><https://cran.r-project.org/package=BrailleR>https://cran.r-project.org/package=BrailleR

>

>However, according to my stats expert 

>colleagues, R is almost totally unlike SPSS in 

>its design, with an extremely steep learning 

>curve. So R was not a feasible replacement for SPSS for us recently.

>

>I hate to promise, but we will be looking at 

>Stata as a possible solution, hopefully next week.

>

>Patrick

>

>On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Bishop, Jeff - 

>(jeffbis) <<mailto:jeffbis at email.arizona.edu>jeffbis at email.arizona.edu> wrote:

>

>Teresa,

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>Do you know if any other alternatives were 

>explored on other platforms (iOS apps, Mac 

>solutions, Windows applications, etc.)? I am 

>just trying to get a feel for what we may be able to offer the student.

>

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>From: athen-list 

>[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] 

>On Behalf Of Teresa Haven

>Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:03 AM

>To: Access Technology Higher Education Network 

><<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>athen-list at u.washington.edu>

>Subject: Re: [Athen] SPSS Version 22 access with JAWS Version 16

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>Hi, Jeff.  We explored SPSS 22 and JAWS 

>(multiple versions – 14, 15, and 16) last 

>academic year.   We could technically get it 

>working, but it was highly unstable even on a 

>high-powered machine, and would never 

>consistently work with JAWS through a single 

>work session. There didn’t seem to be any one 

>trigger for collapse, but at some random point 

>in every work session, JAWS would simply stop 

>talking in SPSS, although it would continue to 

>function otherwise, and the only solution would 

>be to exit SPSS, reboot the computer, and start 

>over, which wasn’t productive.  Our major 

>testers were a faculty member/Ph.D. student who 

>uses JAWS on a regular basis and his statistics 

>professor, who is interested in improving the 

>accessibility of his courses, in the context of 

>a graduate-level statistics course, so the 

>software combination got a lot of testing by 

>experienced end users. We’re hoping IBM will 

>continue to work on the issue and make more 

>strides in improving the accessibility of the product.

>

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>Sorry to not have better results to report,

>

>Teresa

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>Teresa Haven, Ph.D.

>

>Accessibility Analyst, Northern Arizona University

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>From: athen-list 

>[mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] 

>On Behalf Of Bishop, Jeff - (jeffbis)

>Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:50 AM

>To: Access Technology Higher Education Network

>Subject: [Athen] SPSS Version 22 access with JAWS Version 16

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>Hello Everyone,

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>We have a student that will be enrolling in a 

>statistics course this fall. They will be 

>utilizing SPSS version 22. I know from looking 

>at IBM’s documentation that it is possible to 

>get it set up using the Java Access Bridge. Does 

>anyone here have experience with this and once 

>configured how accessible SPSS is with JAWS? Has 

>anyone also explored other options running in 

>iOS or on the Mac for this type of application?

>

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>Jeff


         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
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