[Athen] Deaf student in course using VoiceThread

Scott Marshall marsh058 at umn.edu
Tue Dec 22 13:16:35 PST 2015


It's great that the instructor sees the value and applicabliity here. It
sounds like there will be a valuable discussion around accessibility in the
class. Good to know that it's played out this way so far - thanks for the
follow-up. More people talking more about accessibility...

It's a start.

scott



On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Nazely Kurkjian <kurkjian at binghamton.edu>
wrote:


> After speaking with the professor, it is clear that accessibility is an

> important aspect of her course. To work around possible VoiceThread

> challenges, she's going to create a YouTube channel and the students will

> post and caption their videos in YouTube. I thought, the easiest and

> quickest way for them to caption will be with YouTube's subtitle editor. I

> will provide them best practices and directions/video tutorials for

> captioning in YouTube. Since it is a Managing Information & Technology

> class in a Public Administration degree program, the professor thought it

> would be valuable for them to learn YouTube's platform too. For

> VoiceThread, there will be video, audio or text sent directly to the

> professor only.

>

> After the new year, I plan on exploring more options with VoiceThread,

> like the integration options for captioning. If there's a way to upload a

> video to VoiceThread, not publish it to the class right away (e.g.,

> professor controls when it is published), (professor) click a button to

> send it to the captioning vendor, and THEN publish it, that's the ideal

> situation in my mind. It may be a little more work for the professor, but

> if this is a possibility, they can use VoiceThread how she originally

> intended. If this is not an option, I really hope VoiceThread makes it one

> in the future!!

>

> If anyone's celebrating, have a wonderful holiday and a happy new year!!

>

> Nazely

>

> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Nazely Kurkjian <kurkjian at binghamton.edu>

> wrote:

>

>> ​Thank you all very much for your suggestions. This is extremely helpful!

>> I am meeting with the professor later this afternoon and will let you all

>> know how we move forward.​

>>

>> Another solution I thought of is providing the student on demand remote

>> interpreting.

>>

>> Another thing I'm curious about - if the student who is deaf wants to

>> provide a video response and she signs, do we (DS) translate/convert this

>> information? I ask because, if this student wants to do a video response

>> she absolutely should, but if she does it and she has to provide the

>> translated information (because no one else knows ASL) then couldn't we

>> suggest that because she has to do it everyone else in the class should?

>> Sorry if this is a silly question, I just haven't been in a situation where

>> sign needs to be translated the other way. I think Scott brings up a

>> wonderful point and I'd like to bring this up to the professor. Although

>> student submissions are not typically required to be accessible (by

>> students), this may be a great opportunity for them to consider

>> accessibility barriers in technology and think about ways to provide access

>> - especially because these are students in a masters in public

>> administration program.

>>

>> I'll post back soon~

>>

>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Scott Marshall <marsh058 at umn.edu> wrote:

>>

>>> Here's a slightly different take on the question...

>>>

>>> It's a huge learning moment - particularly for a class about managing

>>> info and tech. I wonder if the instructor would be willing to raise the

>>> accessibility question with the class? To wrestle with the trade-offs

>>> involved between "quick, easy, inaccessible " and "accessible to the whole

>>> community". I obviously don't know ANYthing about the course (Is it super

>>> technical or is it at least particularly taught though a "management" lens?

>>> And does it even matter?) but it seems to me to be an amazing opportunity

>>> to frame the issue in terms of values.

>>>

>>> It might be uncomfortable but that shouldn't prevent the discussion. The

>>> only way we're going to improve digital accessibility on our campuses is by

>>> making more people aware of it by raising it every chance we get. And I

>>> believe that accessibility will become "the way we do things around here" -

>>> it's just a matter of time. For an instructor preparing students for the

>>> future, it seems like a worthwhile conversation to have.

>>>

>>> scott

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Brent Whiting <bwhiting at temple.edu>

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Nazely,

>>>>

>>>> At Temple we are currently working through an evaluation for usage

>>>> strategy of VoiceThread. Our current proposed direction is that any

>>>> student that contributes to a thread via audio or video will need to (at

>>>> minimum) provide a synopsis of the content covered in their audio comments

>>>> immediately after their post. (we are also hoping to get on VoiceThread’s

>>>> radar for a feature request that would prompt for this synopsis immediately

>>>> upon posting any media file)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> We’re concerned that waiting for a file to be captioned would

>>>> potentially leave a deaf student out of an active/live discussion.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Brent

>>>>

>>>> -------------------

>>>> *Brent Whiting*

>>>> Director of Information Systems

>>>> Academic Computing

>>>> Temple University

>>>> Ambler Learning Center – Rm 110

>>>>

>>>> bwhiting at temple.edu

>>>> voice (267) 468-8380

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> *From:* athen-list [mailto:

>>>> athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Nazely

>>>> Kurkjian

>>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2015 4:26 PM

>>>> *To:* DSSHE-L at listserv.buffalo.edu; athen-list at u.washington.edu

>>>> *Subject:* [Athen] Deaf student in course using VoiceThread

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Good afternoon & apologies for the cross-post~

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> A student who is deaf is enrolled in a graduate level Managing

>>>> Information and Technology course and they use VoiceThread to facilitate

>>>> online discussions. Students may choose to participate using video, audio

>>>> only, or text only. The professor intends to provide feedback to the

>>>> students using text.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> The student knows ASL, but what I'm concerned about is how we're going

>>>> to make the* other *students responses accessible in a timely and

>>>> equitable manner. I don't believe any of the other students know ASL, and

>>>> if they choose to create video or audio discussion, I'm not sure how to go

>>>> about providing access.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Apparently, you can add captions to VoiceThread files

>>>> <https://voicethread.com/howto/closed-captioning/>, but is this

>>>> something we should ask the students (in the class) to provide or should

>>>> our office provide it as soon as possible after something has been posted?

>>>> I'm talking to the professor on Tuesday, so maybe that will give me a

>>>> better idea on the expected student response turnaround time.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I sincerely appreciate any advice or recommendations.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Thank you,

>>>>

>>>> Nazely

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>>

>>>> *Nazely Kurkjian*

>>>>

>>>> *"Shame on us... If we let the wonders of educational technology and

>>>> broadband internet lead to more inequality as opposed to less"*

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Adaptive Technology Specialist

>>>>

>>>> Services for Students with Disabilities - UU 119

>>>>

>>>> Binghamton University

>>>>

>>>> Phone: 607-777-2686

>>>>

>>>> Email: kurkjian at binghamton.edu

>>>>

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>>>

>>>

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>> --

>>

>> *Nazely Kurkjian*

>> *"Shame on us... If we let the wonders of educational technology and

>> broadband internet lead to more inequality as opposed to less"*

>>

>> Adaptive Technology Specialist

>> Services for Students with Disabilities - UU 119

>> Binghamton University

>> Phone: 607-777-2686

>> Email: kurkjian at binghamton.edu

>>

>

>

>

> --

>

> *Nazely Kurkjian*

> *"Shame on us... If we let the wonders of educational technology and

> broadband internet lead to more inequality as opposed to less"*

>

> Adaptive Technology Specialist

> Services for Students with Disabilities - UU 119

> Binghamton University

> Phone: 607-777-2686

> Email: kurkjian at binghamton.edu

>

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Scott Marshall
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University of Minnesota Disability Resource Center

o. 612.626.4954
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