[Athen] Alternate and Assistive

[Ron]

But they are very different  tems with different expectations. We need to
be very careful about extending K-12 terms into higher Ed where they have
no real applicability.

Ron Stewart

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015, Leyna Bencomo <lbencomo at uccs.edu> wrote:


>  The other industry standard I’ve heard for assistive is adaptive.  I

> don’t think either are offensive.  Just my 1 cent.  ;)

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> Leyna Bencomo

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> *On Behalf Of *Susan Gjolmesli

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> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Alternate and Assistive

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> I agree.  The barriers are not in the words necessarily.  I’ve been in the

> field of disability for over 30 years and have seen trends come and go…it’s

> the attitudes and bias and discrimination that remain.  As John states, why

> mess with standard terminology?  It does totally confuse the general

> population who are nob savvy enough to get the nuances.

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> That’s my two cents as well.

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> *On Behalf Of *John Elmer

> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:11 AM

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> I am not sure I agree with your premise.  Is that based on feedback to

> that effect from students?

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> To me, it embraces the model that a disability means something is

> wrong/bad, that there is something to be ashamed of. It is a stigma.

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> Not the way I see it.

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> The terms are “industry” standards.  To arbitrarily rename them can also

> create confusion.  Example:  Someone decided that our department name

> should have no reference to disability.  We were renamed the Educational

> Assistance Center.  People now thing we are the campus “help desk”.

> Further, if someone is looking for services for students with disabilities

> in a directory or on a campus map, it’s not there.

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> *On Behalf Of *Cyrus Hamilton

> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:01 AM

> *To:* ATHEN List

> *Subject:* [Athen] Alternate and Assistive

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> Good Afternoon:

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> I am researching alternate phrases for, “assistive technology”, and

> “alternate formats”, and thought this would be an excellent forum for the

> discussion. There’s a lot of meaning in words, and I feel that “assistive”

> and “alternate” are words that can have the unintended consequence of

> further stigmatizing individuals. I understand that technically, all

> technology is assistive, but I think there has to be a better way to

> identify technologies like VoiceDream, Kurzweil 3000, and Dragon Naturally

> Speaking.  Am I over thinking this, or do others share my concern? Thanks!

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> -Cyrus

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