[Athen] Alternate and Assistive

[Berger, Eileen]

I’m sure everyone has seen this article but just in case …here is another link.
Hope you are all having a good summer. Thank you for the important expert work that you do for students and your institutions!
Eileen Berger
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From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:37 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
Subject: Re: [Athen] Alternate and Assistive

But they are very different  tems with different expectations. We need to be very careful about extending K-12 terms into higher Ed where they have no real applicability.

Ron Stewart

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015, Leyna Bencomo <lbencomo at uccs.edu<mailto:lbencomo at uccs.edu>> wrote:
The other industry standard I’ve heard for assistive is adaptive.  I don’t think either are offensive.  Just my 1 cent.  ;)

Leyna Bencomo
Assistive Technology Specialist, Information Technology
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(719) 255-4202
University of Colorado Colorado Springs



From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu');>] On Behalf Of Susan Gjolmesli
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Alternate and Assistive

I agree.  The barriers are not in the words necessarily.  I’ve been in the field of disability for over 30 years and have seen trends come and go…it’s the attitudes and bias and discrimination that remain.  As John states, why mess with standard terminology?  It does totally confuse the general population who are nob savvy enough to get the nuances.

That’s my two cents as well.

S.

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From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu');>] On Behalf Of John Elmer
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Alternate and Assistive

I am not sure I agree with your premise.  Is that based on feedback to that effect from students?

To me, it embraces the model that a disability means something is wrong/bad, that there is something to be ashamed of. It is a stigma.

Not the way I see it.

The terms are “industry” standards.  To arbitrarily rename them can also create confusion.  Example:  Someone decided that our department name should have no reference to disability.  We were renamed the Educational Assistance Center.  People now thing we are the campus “help desk”.  Further, if someone is looking for services for students with disabilities in a directory or on a campus map, it’s not there.

My 2 cents.

John

From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu');>] On Behalf Of Cyrus Hamilton
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:01 AM
To: ATHEN List
Subject: [Athen] Alternate and Assistive

Good Afternoon:
I am researching alternate phrases for, “assistive technology”, and “alternate formats”, and thought this would be an excellent forum for the discussion. There’s a lot of meaning in words, and I feel that “assistive” and “alternate” are words that can have the unintended consequence of further stigmatizing individuals. I understand that technically, all technology is assistive, but I think there has to be a better way to identify technologies like VoiceDream, Kurzweil 3000, and Dragon Naturally Speaking.  Am I over thinking this, or do others share my concern? Thanks!

-Cyrus


Cyrus Hamilton
Cornell University
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