[Athen] Mac/Accessible PDF compatibility

[Joseph Sherman]

I could spend all of my time plus an army making our thousands of PDFs comply with the Matterhorn Protocol. I wish I could get folks to use html or Word docs instead.


Joseph

From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bossley, Pete
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Mac/Accessible PDF compatibility

Very accessible PDF with structure is really only most usable on Windows with Adobe Acrobat or Reader. The landscape on the Mac as stated below is not very good.


[The Ohio State University]
Peter Bossley
Accessibility Analyst
Office of the CIO
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Mac/Accessible PDF compatibility

Evalyne and everyone,

Accessibility of PDFs on the Mac varies. We've noticed that VO now does a fair job with PDFs in Acrobat Pro DC (which is the newest version). It isn't great, but it's better than previous versions. VO with Adobe *Reader* is terrible: it won't read much if any text. VO will usually read PDF text in Preview, but it won't convey structure. For some purposes, that might be fine. What some people do with PDFs on the Mac is open in Reader and save as text, then read that with VO, as a workaround.

So it is possible that the vendor created an accessible PDF, which will work well on Windows but not on Mac.

-Madeleine

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Madeleine Rothberg
Senior Subject Matter Expert
National Center for Accessible Media at WGBH
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From: <McInnish>, "Evalyne M. (MU-Student)" <emmth9 at mail.missouri.edu<mailto:emmth9 at mail.missouri.edu>>
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Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:06 AM
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Subject: [Athen] Mac/Accessible PDF compatibility

Dear colleagues,

Could anyone speak to the current status of compatibility between Macintosh computers running VoiceOver and accessible PDFs? Our team has been requested to test a PDF for accessibility and were specifically requested to test on both Windows and Mac with screen reader software. The PDF was created by an outside company who claim the PDF is accessible, but we had a great deal of trouble when we tested it with VoiceOver, both in Preview and Adobe Reader. Any and all information about the current compatibility between Macs and accessible PDFs is greatly appreciated. If you prefer, you may contact me directly at emmth9 at mail.missouri.edu<mailto:emmth9 at mail.missouri.edu>. Thank you for your assistance.

Best Wishes,

Evalyne McInnish
M.A. Student-Library Sciences
Graduate Research Assistant, ACT Center
University of Missouri
email<mailto:emmth9 at mail.missouri.edu>

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