[Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 18
Ryan DiGiondomenico
rdigiondomenico at berkeley.edu
Wed Oct 19 16:24:10 PDT 2016
Hey Liz,
We are currently piloting Ally with our Canvas instance. Ally is capable of
automatically scanning content in the LMS for accessibility issues, after
which it generates a comprehensive institutional report. It currently
includes all PDF, Word, Powerpoint, OpenOffice and image files, and they’re
in the process of rolling out HTML support as well (which I'm really
excited about). Also, I believe the intention is to provide a tool for
instructors through direct feedback on the content they upload and
assistance in remediation.
Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with UDOIT to provide a direct
comparison. I can say that the integration for our pilot was pretty
straightforward to set up and thus far the report has provided some
interesting and detailed insights.
Best,
Ryan
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> 1. Accessibility Checkers for Canvas (Prickett, Elizabeth)
> 2. Re: Accessibility Checkers for Canvas (Scott Williams)
> 3. Re: Accessibility Checkers for Canvas (Makoto Tsuchitani)
> 4. Re: VHL Central web site with blind students (Normajean.Brand)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:08:06 +0000
> From: "Prickett, Elizabeth" <Elizabeth.Prickett at victoriacollege.edu>
> To: "'altmedia at htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu'"
> <altmedia at htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu>, "'
> athen-list at u.washington.edu'"
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> Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Checkers for Canvas
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> Good evening!
>
> We are in the middle of transitioning to Canvas from Blackboard. We would
> like to utilize an accessibility checking tool as we review our online
> courses. I've talked with the folks who created UDOIT<
> https://online.ucf.edu/teach-online/resources/udoit/> at InstructureCon
> and they offer a lot of guidance on their pages. I know that someone on one
> of the listservs recently posted and inquiry about Ally - Making course
> content accessible<http://ally.ac/>, too, which seems like it may offer
> something similar.
>
> Has anyone tried Ally yet? Has anyone run a comparison of the two? I could
> be wrong, but UDOIT seems like a tool that would be more useful for
> instructors and guiding them to make courses more accessible, and the Ally
> tool may be better at running reports for admins. However, I'm not really
> sure since they (Ally) have such little info online. And, I'm definitely
> not sure how accurate an algorithm generated alt format is! Also, as far as
> I know, UDOIT is free, and I don't know if the other tool is free or not.
>
> Thanks for any insight! Have an excellent week,
>
> Liz Prickett
> Alternative Media Specialist
> Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) Victoria College
> 2200 E. Red River Street
> Victoria, TX 77901
> (361) 573-3291 x3243
> Elizabeth.Prickett at VictoriaCollege.edu<mailto:Elizabeth.Prickett@
> VictoriaCollege.edu>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:48:18 -0400
> From: Scott Williams <swims at umich.edu>
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
> <athen-list at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessibility Checkers for Canvas
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> Hi Liz,
>
> I have recommended to our IT department that we adopt UDOIT for our Canvas
> implementation. I can vouch for the good folks at UCF, having worked
> closely with them. They have been very helpful and knowledgeable. UDOIT
> makes it extremely easy for faculty to fix basic but important
> accessibility errors without intimidating them. I'm not so concerned about
> running reports, and I have not looked at the Ally tool.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Prickett, Elizabeth <
> Elizabeth.Prickett at victoriacollege.edu> wrote:
>
> > Good evening!
> >
> >
> >
> > We are in the middle of transitioning to Canvas from Blackboard. We would
> > like to utilize an accessibility checking tool as we review our online
> > courses. I?ve talked with the folks who created UDOIT
> > <https://online.ucf.edu/teach-online/resources/udoit/> at InstructureCon
> > and they offer a lot of guidance on their pages. I know that someone on
> one
> > of the listservs recently posted and inquiry about Ally ? Making course
> > content accessible <http://ally.ac/>, too, which seems like it may offer
> > something similar.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone tried Ally yet? Has anyone run a comparison of the two? I
> could
> > be wrong, but UDOIT seems like a tool that would be more useful for
> > instructors and guiding them to make courses more accessible, and the
> Ally
> > tool may be better at running reports for admins. However, I?m not really
> > sure since they (Ally) have such little info online. And, I?m definitely
> > not sure how accurate an algorithm generated alt format is! Also, as far
> as
> > I know, UDOIT is free, and I don?t know if the other tool is free or not.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for any insight! Have an excellent week,
> >
> >
> >
> > Liz Prickett
> >
> > Alternative Media Specialist
> >
> > Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) Victoria College
> >
> > 2200 E. Red River Street
> >
> > Victoria, TX 77901
> >
> > (361) 573-3291 x3243
> >
> > Elizabeth.Prickett at VictoriaCollege.edu
> >
> >
> >
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> --
> Scott Williams
> Web Accessibility Coordinator
> Office for Institutional Equity
> University of Michigan
> 734.764.0051
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:43:18 +0000
> From: Makoto Tsuchitani <mako at stanford.edu>
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
> <athen-list at u.washington.edu>,
> "'altmedia at htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu'"
> <altmedia at htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessibility Checkers for Canvas
> Message-ID: <E01904EA-6BE7-401E-BCD1-69484F2A9BB6 at stanford.edu>
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>
> Hi Liz,
>
> We did some early investigation of Ally this past Spring. In addition to
> providing metrics/reports, Ally also supports document conversion to alt
> formats. We had our Accommodations Coordinator review the converted
> ?output? that Ally produced to help us determine whether it would be
> appropriate to pilot Ally at that time. She found that Ally?s converted
> documents were less usable than the alt format documents produced by other
> stand alone tools. That being said, Ally was very responsive with regards
> to seeking input to fine tune their conversion algorithms. So the
> experience with the current version of Ally may differ from what we
> experienced 6 months ago.
>
> Regards,
>
> Thanks,
> Makoto
>
> Makoto Tsuchitani
> Director of Platforms
> Office of the Vice Provost for Teaching and Learning
> Stanford University
> 408 Panama Mall, Room 023
> Stanford, CA 94305-2260
> ph: 650.799.1561
> fx: 650.725-4685
>
>
> From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu> on
> behalf of "Prickett, Elizabeth" <Elizabeth.Prickett at victoriacollege.edu>
> Reply-To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <
> athen-list at u.washington.edu>
> Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 3:08 PM
> To: "'altmedia at htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu'" <altmedia at htclistserv.htctu.
> fhda.edu>, "'athen-list at u.washington.edu'" <athen-list at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Checkers for Canvas
>
> Good evening!
>
> We are in the middle of transitioning to Canvas from Blackboard. We would
> like to utilize an accessibility checking tool as we review our online
> courses. I?ve talked with the folks who created UDOIT<
> https://online.ucf.edu/teach-online/resources/udoit/> at InstructureCon
> and they offer a lot of guidance on their pages. I know that someone on one
> of the listservs recently posted and inquiry about Ally ? Making course
> content accessible<http://ally.ac/>, too, which seems like it may offer
> something similar.
>
> Has anyone tried Ally yet? Has anyone run a comparison of the two? I could
> be wrong, but UDOIT seems like a tool that would be more useful for
> instructors and guiding them to make courses more accessible, and the Ally
> tool may be better at running reports for admins. However, I?m not really
> sure since they (Ally) have such little info online. And, I?m definitely
> not sure how accurate an algorithm generated alt format is! Also, as far as
> I know, UDOIT is free, and I don?t know if the other tool is free or not.
>
> Thanks for any insight! Have an excellent week,
>
> Liz Prickett
> Alternative Media Specialist
> Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) Victoria College
> 2200 E. Red River Street
> Victoria, TX 77901
> (361) 573-3291 x3243
> Elizabeth.Prickett at VictoriaCollege.edu<mailto:Elizabeth.Prickett@
> VictoriaCollege.edu>
>
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> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:01:03 +0000
> From: "Normajean.Brand" <normajean.brand at hccs.edu>
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
> <athen-list at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Athen] VHL Central web site with blind students
> Message-ID:
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> Thanks Kirk! Excellent timing... unfortunately for Miami though. However,
> we can all learn from this one as well as other more recent ones.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> NJ Brand
> ________________________________
> NJ Brand, ATAC
> Houston Community College
> ADA/Assistive Technology Technician
> Technology and Instructional Computing
> VM/Office: 713.718.5604 ???????????????????
> FAX: 713.718.5430
> Email: normajean.brand at hccs.edu
> hccs.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu]
> On Behalf Of Corey, Kirk
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:46 PM
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <
> athen-list at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Athen] VHL Central web site with blind students
>
> Just a quick follow-up on this-- the Miami University consent decree
> published today (https://www.ada.gov/miami_university_cd.html) calls out
> Vista Higher Learning specifically. Perhaps an opportunity to re-engage
> with the vendor on the topic?
>
> Kirk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu]
> On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 1:23 PM
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <
> athen-list at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Athen] VHL Central web site with blind students
>
> Unfortunately, we could not come up with a reasonable solution using vhl,
> and the blind student decided to drop the class even after we were able to
> find a faculty member who would tutor him. He just found it too stressful.
> I've cautioned the faculty who use vhl that doing so with students who have
> visual impairments, or who are deaf/hoh, is seriously problematic. We also
> found much of the videos or slide presentations used that have voice-over
> were not captioned. Vhl has still not addressed my concerns to date.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> NJ Brand
> ________________________________
> NJ Brand, ATAC
> Houston Community College
> ADA/Assistive Technology Technician
> Technology and Instructional Computing
> VM/Office: 713.718.5604 ???????????????????
> FAX: 713.718.5430
> Email: normajean.brand at hccs.edu
> hccs.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu]
> On Behalf Of Maria Bohn
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:51 AM
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <
> athen-list at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Athen] VHL Central web site with blind students
>
> Norma Jean ? did you have any work around or solution? Thanks for the reply
>
> Maria Bohn
> Senior Resource Accommodations Specialist Assistive Technology Office of
> Specialized Services Bergen Community College
>
> On 10/12/16, 6:19 PM, "athen-list on behalf of Normajean.Brand" <
> athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu on behalf of
> normajean.brand at hccs.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello Maria,
>
> We've tried unsuccessfully using JAWS with vhl.central for several of
> our blind and low vision students over the past two years. I even tried to
> contact their tech support and webmaster, with no response. Total
> circle/loop on "your site is not accessible, particularly with JAWS..."
>
> NJ Brand
> ________________________________
> NJ Brand, ATAC
> Houston Community College
> ADA/Assistive Technology Technician
> Technology and Instructional Computing
> VM/Office: 713.718.5604
> FAX: 713.718.5430
> Email: normajean.brand at hccs.edu
> hccs.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu]
> On Behalf Of Maria Bohn
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:15 PM
> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <
> athen-list at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: [Athen] VHL Central web site with blind students
>
> Has anyone used this website: http://vhlcentral.com successfully with
> JAWS? It is for a Spanish course using the book Portales Spanish 1, and the
> students I am working with ? one blind and one low vision are having an
> extremely difficult time with accessing this ? I have had an in class
> support person working with them but they are struggling. I wanted to see
> if anyone else was able to access this successfully or not
>
>
> Maria Bohn
> Senior Resource Accommodations Specialist Assistive Technology Office
> of Specialized Services Bergen Community College
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