[Athen] site works with NVDA/Chrome, JAWS/IE,
but not NVDA/Firefox
Howard Kramer
hkramer at ahead.org
Fri Feb 3 10:33:49 PST 2017
I avoided just saying "accessible" because this was testing the
screenreader portion. I figured I'd get flack for equating screenreader
a11y with accessibility. But you got me from the other direction. :-)
-Howard
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Dan Comden <danc at uw.edu> wrote:
> Rather than "screenreader accessible" can we shoot for "accessible"
> instead?
>
> We have run into many instances where a screenreader can operate where a
> sighted keyboard user cannot.
>
> Happy Friday :)
>
> -*- Dan
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Howard Kramer <hkramer at ahead.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Peter.
>>
>> -Howard
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Bossley, Peter A. <bossley.5 at osu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is worth noting that Firefox + NVDA is our default testing
>>> combination because it brings you closest to modern web standards + modern
>>> screen reader without some of the guessing and extra excuse making that the
>>> commercial offerings sometimes insert into the process.
>>>
>>> If the site doesn’t work in FF + NVDA there are bound to be other issues.
>>>
>>> Without seeing the code it will be hard to guess what the issues are but
>>> I’ll tell you that service now has some serious challenges in this arena,
>>> and any views that are generated with their frameworks are probably going
>>> to be troublesome on one level or another for screen reader reliant users.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Howard Kramer
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 2, 2017 5:02 PM
>>> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <
>>> athen-list at u.washington.edu>
>>> *Subject:* [Athen] site works with NVDA/Chrome, JAWS/IE, but not
>>> NVDA/Firefox
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just wanted to get other folks' opinion on this. I've been helping to
>>> evaluate a prototype application here on our campus - time/payroll type
>>> tool. Surprisingly I've found the the interface is pretty accessible with
>>> NVDA/Chrome and JAWS/Firefox but not accessible with NVDA/Firefox. The
>>> developer said he tested his design with ChromeVox so that helps explain
>>> the accessibility with Chrome.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Two questions: at what point do you say an application or website is
>>> screenreader accessible - does it have to work with every AT/browser combo
>>> or if it seems to work with most, is that okay. Second, any ideas on why
>>> the NVDA/FF environment does not work? BTW - this application was developed
>>> under the ServiceNow platform.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Howard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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