[Athen] Schools with Accessibility Standards and Faculty Pages

[Robert Beach]

Is it better for a student to have notes that are (in some oppinions) less than hand written notes, or not to have notes at all? What about the students who look at other books or magazines instead of looking at their textbook? What about students who look out the window instead of listening to the lecture? Are we going to band all other materials except course specific materials from a class? Are we going to take out all of the windows in classrooms?

There comes a point when you have to let students suffer the consequences of their actions. If they are going to use their laptops to brouse the web instead of paying attention in class, then they will do poorly on the test and not be able to answer the in class questions, which should cause their points to go down.

Okay, just this grumpy old man’s off-the-cuff ramblings. I start vacation tomorrow and I can’t wait. <grin>


Robert Lee Beach
Assistive Technology Specialist
Kansas City Kansas Community College
7250 State Avenue
Kansas City, KS  66112
Phone: 913-288-7671
Email: rbeach at kckcc.edu<mailto:rbeach at kckcc.edu>

From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu> On Behalf Of Heidi Scher
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Hi Eileen,

I have also read many of those studies on note taking - pencil vs tech. But none that I have seen take into account the barrier that pen/pencil/paper may create for some students. In other words, the studies and reports don't address equitable access for students with disabilities. I would agree with Rachel that a faculty member would have to make a case as to whether use of a laptop fundamental alters the course before a laptop isn't allowed. I don't see how these studies could be applied in such a manner as to deem the laptop to fundamental alter the course.

At our institution, within the Faculty Notification Letter each faculty member receives (and each student receives their own copy), the accommodation is listed as "Use of laptop in class - Intenet disabled".

Heidi

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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Thompson, Rachel <rsthompson2 at ua.edu<mailto:rsthompson2 at ua.edu>> wrote:
If use of a laptop in class is part of a student’s accommodations, the instructor would have to make a strong case against it, right? I cannot imagine an instructor’s justification being sufficient to prevent the student having the tech they need.

When I teach face-to-face courses and students use laptops, I inform them (and include in the syllabus) that doing non-class activities while in my class will result in them being counted absent and losing all daily points. The same is true for phone use.

An aside - the last time I taught face-to-face first-year writing (75 minute classes, twice a week), I had so many issues with students sneaking to text/snapchat on their phones that I started giving a 2-minute break in the middle of the course when they could check their messages. It really helped them stay focused for the rest of the time.

Rachel

Dr. Rachel S. Thompson
Director, Emerging Technology and Accessibility
The Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama
A207 Gordon Palmer Hall
Box 870248
Tuscaloosa, AL 35487
Phone 205-348-0216
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From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Sheryl E. Burgstahler
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:26 PM

To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Schools with Accessibility Standards and Faculty Pages

I think many faculty are influenced by the tendency of students to be distracted with email, web surfing, etc., when they are allowed to use laptops in class.

Sheryl
On Apr 18, 2018, at 5:43 AM, Berger, Eileen <eileen_berger at gse.harvard.edu<mailto:eileen_berger at gse.harvard.edu>> wrote:

Hi All,
I have a question about use of laptops in courses. Automaticity allows some students with cognitive differences, those with RSI, vision impairments, Hearing imp. Reading CART and etc. to take notes, stay tuned into classes, view PowerPOints and projected materials up close or enlarged etc. How do we influence our faculty to reconsider rigid no laptop in class policies? They seem to be influenced  by several articles and some limited research about how notetaking on laptops diminishes learning and long term memory.
Have you encountered this and how did you deal with it?
Thanks for any info!
Eileen

Eileen Connell Berger
Access and Disability Services Administrator
Assistant Director Office of Student Affairs
Harvard Graduate School of Education

From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Sheryl E. Burgstahler
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We state that individuals campus wide are responsible for accessible IT under their control, including those who create web pages. Having said that, we, in a very distributed environment, do not employ an accessible IT “police department.”

Sheryl Burgstahler, Ph.D.
Director, UW Accessible Technology & DO-IT, UW-IT
Affiliate Professor, Education
University of Washington, Box 354842
Seattle, WA 98195
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On Apr 17, 2018, at 12:21 PM, James Bailey <jbailey at uoregon.edu<mailto:jbailey at uoregon.edu>> wrote:


Hello All,
If your school has advanced and campus-wide ICT accessibility policies, how do you handle faculty and/or student created pages? Please excuse duplicate posts.

Thanks,

James

James Bailey M.S.
Associate Director
Accessible Education Center
University of Oregon
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