[Athen] Live Scribe 3 Smart Pens

[Robert Spangler]

I ask my students if they prefer to type or write their notes by hand and
proceed accordingly.


On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:34 AM Justin Romack <justinr at disability.tamu.edu>
wrote:


> It’s extremely difficult for me to recommend Sonocent to students who are

> taking handwritten notes. I feel uncomfortable at the notion of putting a

> laptop in front of them – when many report getting distracted or struggling

> with focus. It seems counterintuitive. That said, Sonocent seems to be

> evolving their product – and my goodness, they’re incredibly receptive to

> feedback. I’ve been resistant to their app for a while… but I’m opening up

> a bit as I’m seeing the number of defective Livescribe smartpens hitting my

> desk.

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> Just curious how some of you justify moving a student from a handwritten

> notetaking solution to typing their notes? It’s a jump… and I think it

> raises new concerns and considerations… especially with all of the research

> that indicates typing one’s notes is less effective than taking notes by

> hand. But our students often require unique and creative solutions – so I

> want to explore how you all are synthesizing these needs and specialized

> considerations.

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> Thanks all,

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> Justin

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Leyna Bencomo

> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 10:06 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <

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> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe 3 Smart Pens

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> Years ago, I bought several Echo pens and many of the shafts (bottom half

> of the pen) cracked slightly and made the recordings noisy.  Livescribe

> told me it was a defect and they sent me new shafts with instructions on

> how to replace.  They were polite, accommodating and quick to respond.  I

> was very impressed.

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> Now, I recently contacted via their chatline to ask how soon we could

> expect more pens since everyone needs them at the beginning of the fall

> semester.  I asked what was going on and why they had a shortage.  I was

> treated rather sarcastically and was told I guess it’s because “everybody

> needs them at the beginning of the fall semester.”

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> Not a friendly response.  However, I have not found anything that will do

> the job as well as the Echo pen.  Students claim that their grades improve

> significantly after they start using the smartpen.  Those that can afford

> it, buy them.

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> Sonocent seems cumbersome to me with all its colors and the need for a

> laptop in the class.  But I haven’t actually asked students to try it.  I

> know people think it has a coolness factor but does it really help with

> actual grades?

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Robert Spangler

> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:37 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <

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> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Live Scribe 3 Smart Pens

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> They're an irritating company in general.  It's almost as if they're not

> interested in selling their products.  We use a purchasing system here, to

> which we must add suppliers, and they have not been working with us at all

> - as if they're ignoring our emails.  I imagine that most institutions have

> such a purchasing system, so it shouldn't be too unusual.  I was forced to

> purchase from other sources like Amazon.  If this were for my personal

> life, I'd boycott them completely.

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> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 11:58 AM Doug Hayman <dhayman at uw.edu> wrote:

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> I was buying the Echo directly from Livescribe.com a few months ago.

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> They have been an irritating company to deal with over the years.  A few

> Echo devices we'd loan out all had the screens fail on them with the

> company offering what, $67 to trade in for another one.

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> They have had the wireless one come an go in a short span of time and used

> to have a pro-pack with pen and 4 notebooks but haven't found that one

> recently.

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> Some of our DO-IT Scholars have been more interested in using Sonocent.

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> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Matson, Eric (ecmatson at uidaho.edu) <

> ecmatson at uidaho.edu> wrote:

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> Hi all,

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> New to the list, so I apologize if this topic has already been covered. I

> currently have students waiting for a smart pen as a note taking

> accommodation. We have been using the Live Scribe Echo, but when I went to

> buy more yesterday, every place is sold out. The students have already been

> waiting for two weeks, thanks to an Amazon shipping error that’s looking

> more and more like will end up being  refunded. With all that in mind I

> started looking into the Live Scribe 3, but have some concerns, so was

> wondering if anyone has used that model?

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> My main concern is the 3 doesn’t have a built in mic, so the student would

> have to use their phone to record audio. Looking at reviews, the app that

> goes with the pen is a battery hog, so I’m worried about students having

> enough phone charge to get through back to back lectures. We could include

> that access to power as part of their accommodation, but that doesn’t

> change the fact that the student then has to make sure they have their

> phone and charger at all times.

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> Thanks for any input!

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