[Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader
David Andrews
dandrews at visi.com
Sat Sep 8 13:27:29 PDT 2018
I think the Optacon came out in the early to mid
70's. I had training in 1977. Everything you say
is accurate. Even with the training, I probably
only did about 15 words per minute. I used it on
my first job, as a news writer at an all-news
radio station, to check my typing if I thought I
made a fatal mistake. As you say, it was
difficult to learn and use, a few people mastered
it, and love it, there are still a few users
around. Most people, however, didn't become fast
enough to make it truly useful. It was an early
AT device though, and helped create the field for
adaptive devices. I sold mine to buy my first talking computer, an Apple 2E.
Dave
At 11:45 AM 9/7/2018, you wrote:
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>Optacon was a device invented in the late
>seventies by a Stanford professor with a
>daughter who was blind. He formed the company,
>TeleSensory, to market it they were perhaps
>thee first access technology company. They also
>created the first Braille notetaker, the VersaBraille.
>
>The Optacon has a camera on a cable you slide
>across a printed page. The black-and-white image
>from the camera is converted to a tactile image
>on an array of vibrating pins. The early
>Optacons had 144 pins; the later ones had 100. A
>typical 12-point character will fill the array,
>showing a tactile image of that character. You
>can use the Optacon to examine any printed
>material, even handwriting, but your brain has
>to do all the interpreting, and you are seeing
>less than a half-inch of the material at any
>time. âTrackingâ or moving the camera
>straight across a page and staying on a line of
>print is the hardest task to master.
>
>Because it is so difficult to use, nobody ever created a competing device.
>
>Training to learn the Optacon was long and
>arduous. Blind people who faithfully practiced
>daily for a year could read print at about 80 words per minute.
>
>I taught myself so my speed is more around nine
>words per minute, because I could not afford the
>training. I can read page numbers and check page
>orientation with it, and I can also see if there
>are pictures on a page. I use it mostly to skim
>through a book to examine the layout, and
>sometimes to check things Iâve printed myself.
>I donât really do any reading with it. There
>is also a device to read a CRT screen with the Optacon but I gave mine away.
>
>Another thing that made the Optacon difficult
>was proportional spacing and all the kerning and
>ligatures in fonts. This is less of an issue for
>me because in training myself, I printed out
>examples of every font I could find. The Optacon
>training manual is all in easy Courier. It tends
>to give one a false sense of success!
>
>
>
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><athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> On Behalf Of Robert Spangler
>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 7:48 AM
>To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader
>
>What is an Optacon? I use various scanning apps
>on my phone for the purpose of reading print documents.
>
>
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:39 PM Deborah Armstrong
><<mailto:armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu>armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu> wrote:
>This is a really great explanation of why PDF
>remediation with a screen reader is not an accessible process. Clearly written!
>
>I would add that OmniPage is reasonably
>accessible, and it for me does better OCR than
>Adobe Pro produces with automatic settings.
>
>When I get a publisher PDF, even if it seems to
>read out loud OK, I run it through OmniPage and
>make a few changes in its mostly accessible
>editor. If the student wants the book right away
>I tell them they can have the unaltered PDF and
>to email me what remediations they truly need.
>This saves me a lot of work, because only some
>students need some remediations.
>
>Another solution if your student wants to see
>and hear the book is to give them the unaltered
>PDF and a word document with the entire text
>that youâve cleaned up some with an accessible
>program like K1000. Changing the reading order
>in K1000 is of course perfectly accessible.
>
>Another feature I love in K1000 is its ranked
>spelling which lets me clean up the worst errors
>quickly. Instead of presenting spelling errors
>in chronological order, it presents them in
>frequency of occurrence order. So I can zap 97% of the errors in five minutes.
>Both K1000 and OmniPage have accessible ways of
>moving pages around or knowing what page you are on.
>
>Itâs too bad nobody has made a modern Optacon.
>When I dropped an unbound book on the floor and
>got some pages out of order, and I was the only
>one in the office, I was glad I could still sort of use mine!
>
>--Debee
>
>
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>On Behalf Of Karlen Communications
>Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 6:35 AM
>To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'
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>Subject: Re: [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader
>
>Screen readers and Text-to-Speech tools are
>always in âvirtual viewâ of HTML and PDF
>documents. This means that the adaptive
>technology is reading from the buffer not the
>text layer of the document, In PDF, this is the
>Tags Tree. It is the reason we canât add notes
>or other comments to PDF documents where we
>think we are in the docuument is not where we
>are, it is where we are in the buffer. It is
>also why we canât follow notes or comments in
>PDF documents. For us, there is no connection
>between the note or comment and the âtext on the page.â
>
>While we can go down the Tags Tree, open the
>tags and review some of the content/that is
>showing, we canât tell if content has been
>missed or tagged correctly based on what is on
>the visual representation of the page we are working from.
>
>You do need eyesight to fully remediate PDF documents.
>
>Cheers, Karen
>
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>On Behalf Of Robert Spangler
>Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 9:05 AM
>To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
><<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>athen-list at u.washington.edu>
>Subject: [Athen] Editing PDFs with a Screen Reader
>
>Hello:
>
>I am in charge of our alternative formats
>program. As a screen reader user, I do not find
>Adobe Acrobat Pro or Abbyy Finereader to be the
>most accessible. I find them laggy, they
>sometimes freeze and I have not found a way to edit PDFs directly.
>
>Is this possible for blind folks to do with a
>screen reader? Ultimately, I need to be able to
>remediate PDFs. I would like to do tagging,
>edit the text, do chapter breaks, etc. I know I
>can do chapter breaks especially if there are
>bookmarks in the PDF, but I find this difficult
>to do, to determine the page numbers easily, if there are not bookmarks.
>
>Normally, we have student workers who handle the
>editing and I just do the administrative stuff,
>such as sending out the texts. We have summer
>classes, though, when the student workers are
>not here, so this task ultimately falls to me!
>
>I would love to hear from people, especially
>blind people, who are working with remediating
>PDFs. Is this possible? Are there
>accessibility problems with these
>programs? Admittedly, I've just accepted that
>most PDFs are not always edited adequately and I
>deal with it, but I don't want to tell my
>students this. Haha. I usually run it through
>OCR and that's sufficient for me except for when
>the order of the reading is incorrect.
>
>Looking forward to responses.
>
>Robert
>
>
>--
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