[Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

[Janna.Barnes at gvltec.edu]

If you want to convert the ePub to a PDF format  I use PDFMate. It is a free download ad conversions are all free. I am sure they will sellyou a version, but I have been quite successful with this.

Janna Barnes
 
Janna Barnes
864-250-8202

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   1. Reader for ePub3 files with math (Susan Kelmer)
   2. Re: Reader for ePub3 files with math (Erik Ferguson)
   3. Re: Reader for ePub3 files with math (Susan Kelmer)
   4. Re: Reader for ePub3 files with math (Erik Ferguson)
   5. Re: Reader for ePub3 files with math (Susan Kelmer)
   6. Re: Reader for ePub3 files with math (Erik Ferguson)
   7. Re: Reader for ePub3 files with math (Susan Kelmer)
   8. Re: Reader for ePub3 files with math (Wink Harner)
   9. Re: Reader for ePub3 files with math (Susan Kelmer)


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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 15:34:21 +0000
From: Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
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Subject: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math
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I need to know what reader(s) to recommend for a sighted student needing to hear text and math in an ePub3 file. I'm told it can be done.  But so far, I'm not coming up with anything that will read the math that is not a screenreader.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder
303-735-4836

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From: Erik Ferguson <erik.ferguson at pcc.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math
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EquatIO or CAR? I'm thinking out loud, the epub format stymies me a bit.
Any mechanism for conversion?

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:36 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
wrote:


> I need to know what reader(s) to recommend for a sighted student 

> needing to hear text and math in an ePub3 file. I?m told it can be 

> done.  But so far, I?m not coming up with anything that will read the 

> math that is not a screenreader.

>

>

>

> *Susan Kelmer*

>

> *Alternate Format Production Program Manager*

>

> *Disability Services*

>

> *University of Colorado Boulder*

>

> *303-735-4836*

>

>

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Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:25:57 +0000
From: Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math
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CAR is no longer effective on word files with mathtype, so we aren?t even going there.

EquatIO is not a full reader, only a screenshot reader for equations.  This does not give a smooth reading experience for the student.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder
303-735-4836



From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> On Behalf Of Erik Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

EquatIO or CAR? I'm thinking out loud, the epub format stymies me a bit. Any mechanism for conversion?

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:36 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:
I need to know what reader(s) to recommend for a sighted student needing to hear text and math in an ePub3 file. I?m told it can be done.  But so far, I?m not coming up with anything that will read the math that is not a screenreader.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder
303-735-4836

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From: Erik Ferguson <erik.ferguson at pcc.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math
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Thanks for you feedback! Yes. I am having my own struggles with EquatIO over here but one can always hope. Thanks. Please keep posting to list I am having a very similar struggle with a student who is not blind and has a lot of heavy chemistry formulas to go through. EquatIO is making a mess. I had such high hopes for that software!

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:28 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
wrote:


> CAR is no longer effective on word files with mathtype, so we aren?t 

> even going there.

>

>

>

> EquatIO is not a full reader, only a screenshot reader for equations.

> This does not give a smooth reading experience for the student.

>

>

>

> *Susan Kelmer*

>

> *Alternate Format Production Program Manager*

>

> *Disability Services*

>

> *University of Colorado Boulder*

>

> *303-735-4836*

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On 

> Behalf Of *Erik Ferguson

> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:05 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < 

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

>

>

>

> EquatIO or CAR? I'm thinking out loud, the epub format stymies me a bit.

> Any mechanism for conversion?

>

>

>

> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:36 AM Susan Kelmer 

> <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>

> wrote:

>

> I need to know what reader(s) to recommend for a sighted student 

> needing to hear text and math in an ePub3 file. I?m told it can be 

> done.  But so far, I?m not coming up with anything that will read the 

> math that is not a screenreader.

>

>

>

> *Susan Kelmer*

>

> *Alternate Format Production Program Manager*

>

> *Disability Services*

>

> *University of Colorado Boulder*

>

> *303-735-4836*

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

> --

>

> Erik Ferguson

>

> Alternative Media Technician

>

> PCC Disability Services Assistive Technology Team

>

> Contact us for questions and support at:

>

> Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)

>

> access-tech-group at pcc.edu

>

> *Please Note: I am not in office Tuesday or Thursday. For immediate 

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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:44:04 +0000
From: Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math
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Equatio works, it just has some tricks to it.  Like don?t select ANYTHING but the equation.  It won?t read text, only the equation.

-Susan

From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> On Behalf Of Erik Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:34 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

Thanks for you feedback! Yes. I am having my own struggles with EquatIO over here but one can always hope. Thanks. Please keep posting to list I am having a very similar struggle with a student who is not blind and has a lot of heavy chemistry formulas to go through. EquatIO is making a mess. I had such high hopes for that software!

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:28 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:
CAR is no longer effective on word files with mathtype, so we aren?t even going there.

EquatIO is not a full reader, only a screenshot reader for equations.  This does not give a smooth reading experience for the student.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder
303-735-4836



From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Erik Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:05 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

EquatIO or CAR? I'm thinking out loud, the epub format stymies me a bit. Any mechanism for conversion?

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:36 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:
I need to know what reader(s) to recommend for a sighted student needing to hear text and math in an ePub3 file. I?m told it can be done.  But so far, I?m not coming up with anything that will read the math that is not a screenreader.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder
303-735-4836

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PCC Disability Services Assistive Technology Team Contact us for questions and support at:
Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)
access-tech-group at pcc.edu<mailto:access-tech-group at pcc.edu>
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Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 10:59:36 -0700
From: Erik Ferguson <erik.ferguson at pcc.edu>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
	<athen-list at u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math
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Yes. Totally I get that.
For example, it reads "normal triangle" instead of "Delta." It reads "Number two" instead of "N O subscript 2"  "M- O- L" instead of mol "mole"
This is EquatIO I'm talking about not Read and Write. She actually ended up reverting to Read and Write after a trial of both software and simply watches very closely as she's reading. She's a pre medical student so its going to be heavy math and science all the way for her.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:46 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
wrote:


> Equatio works, it just has some tricks to it.  Like don?t select 

> ANYTHING but the equation.  It won?t read text, only the equation.

>

>

>

> -Susan

>

>

>

> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On 

> Behalf Of *Erik Ferguson

> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:34 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < 

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

>

>

>

> Thanks for you feedback! Yes. I am having my own struggles with 

> EquatIO over here but one can always hope. Thanks. Please keep posting 

> to list I am having a very similar struggle with a student who is not 

> blind and has a lot of heavy chemistry formulas to go through. EquatIO 

> is making a mess. I had such high hopes for that software!

>

>

>

> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:28 AM Susan Kelmer 

> <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>

> wrote:

>

> CAR is no longer effective on word files with mathtype, so we aren?t 

> even going there.

>

>

>

> EquatIO is not a full reader, only a screenshot reader for equations.

> This does not give a smooth reading experience for the student.

>

>

>

> *Susan Kelmer*

>

> *Alternate Format Production Program Manager*

>

> *Disability Services*

>

> *University of Colorado Boulder*

>

> *303-735-4836*

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On 

> Behalf Of *Erik Ferguson

> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:05 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < 

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

>

>

>

> EquatIO or CAR? I'm thinking out loud, the epub format stymies me a bit.

> Any mechanism for conversion?

>

>

>

> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:36 AM Susan Kelmer 

> <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>

> wrote:

>

> I need to know what reader(s) to recommend for a sighted student 

> needing to hear text and math in an ePub3 file. I?m told it can be 

> done.  But so far, I?m not coming up with anything that will read the 

> math that is not a screenreader.

>

>

>

> *Susan Kelmer*

>

> *Alternate Format Production Program Manager*

>

> *Disability Services*

>

> *University of Colorado Boulder*

>

> *303-735-4836*

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________

> athen-list mailing list

> athen-list at mailman12.u.washington.edu

> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list

>

>

>

>

> --

>

> Erik Ferguson

>

> Alternative Media Technician

>

> PCC Disability Services Assistive Technology Team

>

> Contact us for questions and support at:

>

> Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)

>

> access-tech-group at pcc.edu

>

> *Please Note: I am not in office Tuesday or Thursday. For immediate 

> response please use the email and number listed in signature above.*

>

> _______________________________________________

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>

>

>

>

> --

>

> Erik Ferguson

>

> Alternative Media Technician

>

> PCC Disability Services Assistive Technology Team

>

> Contact us for questions and support at:

>

> Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)

>

> access-tech-group at pcc.edu

>

> *Please Note: I am not in office Tuesday or Thursday. For immediate 

> response please use the email and number listed in signature above.* 

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PCC Disability Services Assistive Technology Team Contact us for questions and support at:
Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)
access-tech-group at pcc.edu
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 18:08:36 +0000
From: Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
	<athen-list at u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math
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Well, that?s a bit disconcerting!  I?m going to have to dig a little deeper now.

-Susan


From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> On Behalf Of Erik Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:00 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

Yes. Totally I get that.
For example, it reads "normal triangle" instead of "Delta." It reads "Number two" instead of "N O subscript 2"  "M- O- L" instead of mol "mole" This is EquatIO I'm talking about not Read and Write. She actually ended up reverting to Read and Write after a trial of both software and simply watches very closely as she's reading. She's a pre medical student so its going to be heavy math and science all the way for her.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:46 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:
Equatio works, it just has some tricks to it.  Like don?t select ANYTHING but the equation.  It won?t read text, only the equation.

-Susan

From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Erik Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:34 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

Thanks for you feedback! Yes. I am having my own struggles with EquatIO over here but one can always hope. Thanks. Please keep posting to list I am having a very similar struggle with a student who is not blind and has a lot of heavy chemistry formulas to go through. EquatIO is making a mess. I had such high hopes for that software!

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:28 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:
CAR is no longer effective on word files with mathtype, so we aren?t even going there.

EquatIO is not a full reader, only a screenshot reader for equations.  This does not give a smooth reading experience for the student.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder
303-735-4836



From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Erik Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:05 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

EquatIO or CAR? I'm thinking out loud, the epub format stymies me a bit. Any mechanism for conversion?

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:36 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:
I need to know what reader(s) to recommend for a sighted student needing to hear text and math in an ePub3 file. I?m told it can be done.  But so far, I?m not coming up with anything that will read the math that is not a screenreader.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder
303-735-4836

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Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)
access-tech-group at pcc.edu<mailto:access-tech-group at pcc.edu>
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Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)
access-tech-group at pcc.edu<mailto:access-tech-group at pcc.edu>
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Phone: 971-722-TECH (971-722-8324)
access-tech-group at pcc.edu<mailto:access-tech-group at pcc.edu>
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From: Wink Harner <foreigntype at gmail.com>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math
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Susan,

Is the bug with MS Word or with MathType? Is it a problem between the pre-Wiris buy out of Design Science and the newest release of MathType (vs the previous standalone or download version)?

Very curious since I'm putting together the modules for math accessibility for my grad class at CUNY and want to be able to provide the most accurate, up-to-date info.

Wink
Wink Harner
Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type

Portland OR
foreigntype at gmail.com
480-984-0034

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On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:26 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
wrote:


> CAR is no longer effective on word files with mathtype, so we aren?t 

> even going there.

>

>

>

> EquatIO is not a full reader, only a screenshot reader for equations.

> This does not give a smooth reading experience for the student.

>

>

>

> *Susan Kelmer*

>

> *Alternate Format Production Program Manager*

>

> *Disability Services*

>

> *University of Colorado Boulder*

>

> *303-735-4836*

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>

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On 

> Behalf Of *Erik Ferguson

> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:05 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < 

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> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

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>

> EquatIO or CAR? I'm thinking out loud, the epub format stymies me a bit.

> Any mechanism for conversion?

>

>

>

> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:36 AM Susan Kelmer 

> <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>

> wrote:

>

> I need to know what reader(s) to recommend for a sighted student 

> needing to hear text and math in an ePub3 file. I?m told it can be 

> done.  But so far, I?m not coming up with anything that will read the 

> math that is not a screenreader.

>

>

>

> *Susan Kelmer*

>

> *Alternate Format Production Program Manager*

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> *Disability Services*

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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 18:42:26 +0000
From: Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math
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As far as we can tell, it is a CAR problem.  The mathML files we are making work perfectly with a screenreader.

-Susan

From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> On Behalf Of Wink Harner
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:23 PM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

Susan,

Is the bug with MS Word or with MathType? Is it a problem between the pre-Wiris buy out of Design Science and the newest release of MathType (vs the previous standalone or download version)?

Very curious since I'm putting together the modules for math accessibility for my grad class at CUNY and want to be able to provide the most accurate, up-to-date info.

Wink
Wink Harner
Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype at gmail.com<mailto:foreigntype at gmail.com>
480-984-0034
This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata .


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:26 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:
CAR is no longer effective on word files with mathtype, so we aren?t even going there.

EquatIO is not a full reader, only a screenshot reader for equations.  This does not give a smooth reading experience for the student.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder
303-735-4836



From: athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Erik Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:05 AM
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Athen] Reader for ePub3 files with math

EquatIO or CAR? I'm thinking out loud, the epub format stymies me a bit. Any mechanism for conversion?

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:36 AM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:
I need to know what reader(s) to recommend for a sighted student needing to hear text and math in an ePub3 file. I?m told it can be done.  But so far, I?m not coming up with anything that will read the math that is not a screenreader.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services University of Colorado Boulder
303-735-4836

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