[Athen] Screen reader punctuation issue

[Debbie Krahmer]

Thank you, Peter. I've been reviewing some of the other options, and I
think I agree that we'll go with the notice for screen readers at the top.

Thanks,
D.
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Debbie Krahmer
Preferred Pronouns: My name/no pronouns

Associate Professor in the Libraries
Accessible Technology & Government Documents Librarian
304 Case-Geyer
Colgate University
315-228-6592
dkrahmer at colgate.edu


On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 8:32 PM Bossley, Peter A. <bossley.5 at osu.edu> wrote:


> There is no easy way to do this. However, it would be possible to write

> out what you wanted the screen reader to read as an aria-label. The issue

> with this would be that if the screen reader user were to review it word by

> word they would read the label text and not the format that is actually

> present on the page. It is for that reason that I wouldn’t suggest doing

> this.

>

>

>

> The best advice might be to put a notice on the page itself above the

> content e.g.

>

> The following section demonstrates syntax for search engines. If you are a

> screen reader user we recommend that you increase your screen reader

> punctuation verbosity for best results on this page.

>

>

>

>

>

> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Debbie Krahmer

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> *Subject:* [Athen] Screen reader punctuation issue

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

>

>

> I'm working with some faculty on a library/archives tutorial for students

> on how to use our Finding Aides search engine. There's one section of the

> tutorial that is demonstrating how using quotation marks around a phrase

> forces the search box to search it as a single phrase, as opposed to two

> separate words connected by a boolean operator. The first time it is done,

> it's obvious (to me as a NVDA screen reader user) that the pauses are

> indicating that the example is, indeed, using the quotation marks.

>

>

>

> However, there's a list of example searches that students might use, some

> of which are phrases that use quotation marks. Visually, it's really

> obvious that this is done to emphasize when and how a phrase should have

> quotation marks around it.

>

>

>

> Audibly, I can't tell when a phrase is in quotation marks or when a phrase

> isn't. Maybe it's not necessary to have the extra reminders about enclosing

> a phrase in quotation marks, but it is an instance where a

> screen-reader-user wouldn't be receiving the same information that a

> non-screen-reader-user would be on the page.

>

>

>

> I know I can up the verbosity of NVDA, so it will read punctuation, but I

> wouldn't know to do that for this page ahead of time. and it drives me nuts

> to have it like that all the time. I wouldn't assume that a student would

> just know to up their verbosity when reading a tutorial.

>

>

>

> Is there a way with ARIA to indicate when its important for the screen

> reader to actually say the punctuation for a few examples? Something to

> tell it when to read something as "quote buildings and grounds quote"

> versus "buildings and grounds."

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> D.

>

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>

>

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