[Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 167, Issue 17

[Rebecca Sitton]

1. Livescribe Ageir Pen ($99) and app will convert handwriting to text but
not the best at formatting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3JGdWX483U

2. If you have handwritten pages, scan them in as a .jpg file. Upload the
file to google drive. In the list of files, right-click on the .jpg and
select "Open with" select "google docs"
Google Docs will also perform handwriting recognition.
I teach students to do this with scanned images or pictures of "book pages"
and worksheets (a quick and dirty way to OCR) so that they can use their
TTS.

Rebecca E Sitton
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>    3. Re: Converting handwriting to text (Jiatyan Chen)

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> From: "Tran,Michael" <mtran at wccnet.edu>

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> Hello,

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> Are there any recommendations for programs (software or apps) to use for

> converting handwritten (from lecture notetaking) to text to be used with a

> screen reader.

>

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> Michael Tran, Technology Specialist

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> I believe OneNote 2016 was able to convert handwriting. Microsoft

> partnered with livescribe at one point to develop that capability. I don't

> know if the current version of OneNote is able to do that, but it's worth a

> look!

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> Hello,

>

> Are there any recommendations for programs (software or apps) to use for

> converting handwritten (from lecture notetaking) to text to be used with a

> screen reader.

>

>

> Michael Tran, Technology Specialist

> Disability Services (DS)

> Washtenaw Community College

> 4800 E. Huron River Drive, LA 104

> Ann Arbor, MI 48105

> P: 734-973-3342

> F: 734-477-8517

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> From: Jiatyan Chen <jiatyan at stanford.edu>

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> I use MyScript Nebo to write/edit on the iPad Pro. (Speak to Gonzalo

> Silverio at umich, who has seen me using it at AHG.) It will convert

> handwriting into text on the fly, and can edit the converted text by

> crossing it out and writing over it.  Cons: high initial hardware

> investment.

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> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nebo-professional-note-taking/id1119601770

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> Seconding Nebo--MyScript's been at the handwriting-to-machine-readable-text

> for decades, and they're really good, but it costs. (Minimum $300 for an

> iPad, $100 for an iPencil, and $15 for the app. Or you need an android

> tablet with an active stylus.)

>

> It only works for materials written in Nebo, as well. Same with Notes

> Plus--it does handwriting recognition, but only for text written in the

> Notes Plus app ($7, it also uses the MyScript engine, but doesn't require

> an active stylus). Many notes apps will do handwriting to text, but only

> within the app and it can be hit-or-miss, like with the Google Handwriting

> Input app.

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> I don't know of an app that'll take existing handwritten materials and

> translate them to machine-readable.

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> Thanks,

> D.

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> Debbie Krahmer

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> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 11:06 AM Jiatyan Chen <jiatyan at stanford.edu>

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> > I use MyScript Nebo to write/edit on the iPad Pro. (Speak to Gonzalo

> > Silverio at umich, who has seen me using it at AHG.) It will convert

> > handwriting into text on the fly, and can edit the converted text by

> > crossing it out and writing over it.  Cons: high initial hardware

> > investment.

> >

> > https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nebo-professional-note-taking/id1119601770

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> > On Dec 18, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Tran,Michael <mtran at wccnet.edu> wrote:

> >

> > ?

> > Hello,

> >

> > Are there any recommendations for programs (software or apps) to use for

> converting handwritten (from lecture notetaking) to text to be used with a

> screen reader.

> >

> >

> > Michael Tran, Technology Specialist

> > Disability Services (DS)

> > Washtenaw Community College

> > 4800 E. Huron River Drive, LA 104

> > Ann Arbor, MI 48105

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> > F: 734-477-8517

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> Thank you, Peter. I've been reviewing some of the other options, and I

> think I agree that we'll go with the notice for screen readers at the top.

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> Thanks,

> D.

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> Debbie Krahmer

> Preferred Pronouns: My name/no pronouns

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> Associate Professor in the Libraries

> Accessible Technology & Government Documents Librarian

> 304 Case-Geyer

> Colgate University

> 315-228-6592

> dkrahmer at colgate.edu

>

>

> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 8:32 PM Bossley, Peter A. <bossley.5 at osu.edu>

> wrote:

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> > There is no easy way to do this. However, it would be possible to write

> > out what you wanted the screen reader to read as an aria-label. The issue

> > with this would be that if the screen reader user were to review it word

> by

> > word they would read the label text and not the format that is actually

> > present on the page. It is for that reason that I wouldn?t suggest doing

> > this.

> >

> >

> >

> > The best advice might be to put a notice on the page itself above the

> > content e.g.

> >

> > The following section demonstrates syntax for search engines. If you are

> a

> > screen reader user we recommend that you increase your screen reader

> > punctuation verbosity for best results on this page.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> > Behalf Of *Debbie Krahmer

> > *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2019 12:18 PM

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> > *Subject:* [Athen] Screen reader punctuation issue

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm working with some faculty on a library/archives tutorial for students

> > on how to use our Finding Aides search engine. There's one section of the

> > tutorial that is demonstrating how using quotation marks around a phrase

> > forces the search box to search it as a single phrase, as opposed to two

> > separate words connected by a boolean operator. The first time it is

> done,

> > it's obvious (to me as a NVDA screen reader user) that the pauses are

> > indicating that the example is, indeed, using the quotation marks.

> >

> >

> >

> > However, there's a list of example searches that students might use, some

> > of which are phrases that use quotation marks. Visually, it's really

> > obvious that this is done to emphasize when and how a phrase should have

> > quotation marks around it.

> >

> >

> >

> > Audibly, I can't tell when a phrase is in quotation marks or when a

> phrase

> > isn't. Maybe it's not necessary to have the extra reminders about

> enclosing

> > a phrase in quotation marks, but it is an instance where a

> > screen-reader-user wouldn't be receiving the same information that a

> > non-screen-reader-user would be on the page.

> >

> >

> >

> > I know I can up the verbosity of NVDA, so it will read punctuation, but I

> > wouldn't know to do that for this page ahead of time. and it drives me

> nuts

> > to have it like that all the time. I wouldn't assume that a student would

> > just know to up their verbosity when reading a tutorial.

> >

> >

> >

> > Is there a way with ARIA to indicate when its important for the screen

> > reader to actually say the punctuation for a few examples? Something to

> > tell it when to read something as "quote buildings and grounds quote"

> > versus "buildings and grounds."

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > D.

> >

> > ______________

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> > Debbie Krahmer

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> >

> > Associate Professor in the Libraries

> > Accessible Technology & Government Documents Librarian

> > 304 Case-Geyer

> > Colgate University

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> > dkrahmer at colgate.edu

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