[Athen] Book for an online student

[Wink Harner]

Susan et al,

In my own defense, I did mention purchasing the book as one of the options
at our disposal.

Wink

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, 8:40 AM Justin Romack <justinr at disability.tamu.edu>
wrote:


> Agree with Susan’s take on this. It would be my advice as well.

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> Ultimately, the student isn’t the one legally obligated to provide access

> – the university is. Fortunately, it sounds like the cost of the book is

> low – so it won’t be an extreme expense for Robert’s office to purchase and

> begin processing these materials … but even if it were, is it worth

> delaying the process and risking litigation for failing to accommodate this

> student’s needs?

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> No doubt the water is a little murky on this one … but when black and

> white turn to grey, I’m going to air on the side of caution and make sure

> access is top of mind – no matter the cost.

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> Thanks for being such a great community that can dispense advice for all

> of our oddities and edge cases. Y’all really are a super group!

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> Thanks,

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Susan Kelmer

> *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 10:25 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Book for an online student

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> Wink, the book is not available from the publisher.  Normal process would

> be to scan the book, but the student is a distance learner, so putting the

> burden of mailing the book onto the student seems unfair.

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> *Susan Kelmer*

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> *Alternate Format Production Program Manager*

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Wink Harner

> *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 9:16 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Book for an online student

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>  Robert,

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> Why would they have to mail the book to you? We only require proof of

> “ownership” which could be copy of a receipt, check out slip from a

> library, photo of their name written on it. Many times I’ve converted a

> book electronically for a student long before a semester started and

> released it electronically after “proof” of possession of the book. Our

> department considered the cost of purchasing & converting books as part of

> our cost of doing business. We worked out a buy back agreement with the

> bookstore. Sometimes we were able to get a desk copy from the publisher or

> the instructor or the department which we could use to cut, scan and rebind.

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> Hopefully someone on the listserv will have an electronic version of the

> book and can share it with you.

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> Wink

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> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:36 AM Robert Spangler <rspangler1 at udayton.edu>

> wrote:

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> It's not necessarily sharing the scanned files, but asking the student to

> mail me the physical book that's the difficulty.  Is that fair to do, since

> they would have to pay to do this?  Or would we be expected to buy a copy

> of the book or reimburse his shipping?

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> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:18 PM Wink Harner <foreigntype at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Hi Robert et al ATHENITES,

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> We did this frequently at Southern Oregon University not just for students

> in online classes but for all students (mostly all). We used Sugar Sync,

> and online filesharing application, and would convert the books to the

> appropriate format and upload the files to sugar sync, where the students

> could logon and download wherever they happened to be.

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> There are a number of apps that are free that are efficient and easy to

> use in this category, we chose one for the college that was a paid

> subscription service, was not terribly expensive, but because we wanted to

> protect both the privacy of the student and the copyright of the books we

> created individual links for each student for their books and contract when

> or if they downloaded the books or if other attempts were made to download

> the books. The files are removed each semester. If a student needs it

> again, we can reload the file for them.

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> If you need help with recommendations on cloud-based services, let us

> know. Sure there are many of us online it would be happy to share

> recommendations.

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> This is more common than you might think! There are fairly simple ways of

> dealing with it. Now you know :-)

> Hope this helps.

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> Wink Harner

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> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Robert Spangler <rspangler1 at udayton.edu>

> wrote:

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> Hello, I have an alternative format request from a student who is enrolled

> in one of our online programs and is not local.  The publisher has not

> responded to a request for an alternative format version of this textbook.

> Normally, I would offer the student an in-house scan of the text, but this

> is hardly convenient given the student is not local.  Has anyone else

> experienced this issue, and what did you do?

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> Thanks,

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> Robert

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