[Athen] Alternate Formats and Varying Editions of Textbooks
Wink Harner
foreigntype at gmail.com
Fri Jan 17 12:01:07 PST 2020
Thanks, Brandon.
I'll follow the legal guidance from our college district's legal department
and suggest others do the same.
Wink Harner
Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production
The Foreign Type
Portland OR
foreigntype at gmail.com
480-984-0034
This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive
quirks, misrecognitions, or errata .
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:40 AM Butler, Brandon (bcb4y) <bcb4y at virginia.edu>
wrote:
> Hi Wink,
>
> Thanks for this response - it does clarify a key issue! You say you
> request files from publishers — in that case, the publishers can impose
> whatever condition they want on you in exchange for the files, including
> requiring you to promise that the student has obtained a copy. In that
> case, if you make such a promise, you are indeed bound to require purchase
> or other lawful possession. But just to be clear, you are under that
> obligation because of your promise to the publisher, not because of
> copyright law.
>
> If you obtain accessible files elsewhere (like from a library, or a DSO
> colleague), and do not enter into any contrary agreements with publishers,
> you are under no obligation to require purchase.
>
> Also, note that *HathiTrust* was actually a unanimous three-judge opinion
> by the Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit, is binding precedent for all
> district courts in the Circuit, and provides persuasive authority
> nationwide. The defendants in the case were entire universities, not just
> libraries.
>
> Best,
> Brandon
>
> On Jan 17, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Wink Harner <foreigntype at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Brandon et al
>
> I thought I made it clear in my earlier response that proof of
> ownership/possession was required, Not purchase.
>
> Anyone enrolled in a course can purchase, rent, check out from the
> library, borrow, buy used books. There are a lot of ways for any student to
> "provide" this to me for alt-text remediation. I am assuming the copyright
> risk in requesting files from publishers, and in a DSS office, I assume
> this risk on behalf of the college.
>
> I work from a perspective of equity: If all students are required to be
> "in possession of" textbooks for classes, this does not exempt disabled
> students from the requirement.
>
> One judge's ruling about libraries in relation to HathiTrust and copyright
> pertains narrowly to libraries and should not be inferred to apply to
> disabled students in general.
>
> My thoughts on a snowy Friday,
>
> Wink
>
> Wink Harner
> Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production
> The Foreign Type
>
> Portland OR
> foreigntype at gmail.com
> 480-984-0034
>
> This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive
> quirks, misrecognitions, or errata .
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:45 AM Butler, Brandon (bcb4y) <
> bcb4y at virginia.edu> wrote:
>
>> Susan,
>>
>> You’re right, we should probably agree to disagree. But you (and others)
>> may find this passage from Judge Barrington Parker’s opinion on the market
>> effect of HathiTrust enlightening—apparently many authors are paid in grins
>> and giggles when publishers sell books in accessible formats, so perhaps
>> they would not be opposed to the same level of remuneration from
>> universities:
>>
>> The fourth factor also weighs in favor of a finding of fair use. It is
>> undisputed that the present-day market for books accessible to the
>> handicapped is so insignificant that “*it is common practice in the
>> publishing industry for authors to forgo royalties that are generated
>> through the sale of books manufactured in specialized formats for the blind*....”
>> Appellants' Br. 34. “[T]he number of accessible books currently available
>> to the blind for borrowing is a mere few hundred thousand titles, a minute
>> percentage of the world's books. In contrast, the HDL contains more than
>> ten million accessible volumes.” J.A. 173 ¶ 10 (Maurer Decl.). When
>> considering the 1976 Act, Congress was well aware of this problem. The
>> House Committee Report observed that publishers did not “usually ma[ke]”
>> their books available in specialized formats for the blind. H.R. REP.
>> NO. 94–1476, at 73, 1976 U.S.C.C.A.N. at 5686. That observation remains
>> true today.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Brandon
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have read the white paper. It made some interesting points, but it has
>> not convinced me, or my legal counsel, that we should be giving away files
>> to students who have not obtained some form of the book – new, used,
>> rental, digital download (aka Kindle/Nook), etc.
>>
>> If it was found out by non-disabled students that disabled students were
>> getting their textbook materials for free, we would have an absolute RIOT
>> on our hands, and it’s not a riot I want a part of.
>>
>> Also, I am an author. It pains me GREATLY to think that books that are
>> written using blood, sweat, tears, AND MY TIME are just blithely given away
>> to those with a disability, with no guilt or even thought to what that
>> means. Authors are people too, and they are not writing for grins and
>> giggles – they are writing because it is how they make their living.
>>
>> Giving away files is no different in my mind than illegal file sharing of
>> music, movies, etc. In fact, it IS illegal in my mind, as it brashly
>> abuses copyright of the authors who are writing the books in the first
>> place.
>>
>> We are going to have to agree to disagree on this issue. I’ve been doing
>> this work for 20 years and not one single time have I felt it was
>> appropriate to give files to students without proof of ownership/possession
>> (note I did not say proof of purchase).
>>
>> *Susan Kelmer *
>> Alternate Format Production Program Manager
>> Disability Services
>> Division of Student Affairs
>> *T* 303 735 4836
>> *www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices
>> <http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices>*
>>
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>> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On
>> Behalf Of *Butler, Brandon (bcb4y)
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2020 9:09 AM
>> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <
>> athen-list at u.washington.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Alternate Formats and Varying Editions of
>> Textbooks
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> With all due respect to Susan and Wink, the claim that purchase is
>> required by copyright law has no basis in copyright law. I am a copyright
>> lawyer and one of the authors of the white paper, which was based in part
>> on a convening of copyright experts, including lawyers from the University
>> Counsels’ offices at UVA and the University of Michigan, the counsel to the
>> Internet Archive, counsel to the Association of Research Libraries, and my
>> friend Blake Reid, who is a professor at CU's law school and the Director
>> of the IP Policy Clinic there. (The full list is in the Acknowledgments
>> section of the paper.) I’m sure Blake would be happy to talk to you about
>> the project if you have questions, Susan. He’s an expert in both disability
>> law and copyright law.
>>
>> I can also assure you that the analysis in the white paper applies
>> expressly to DSOs, universities, and even large groups of universities, and
>> not only to libraries. It is based on legal provisions and precedent that
>> apply broadly to any authorized entity (in the case of Section 121) and to
>> any lawful user (in the case of Section 107).
>>
>> Finally, if you wait for *more* caselaw or for *another* revision of
>> copyright, you may be waiting for a very long time, but luckily we have
>> very recent caselaw AND revisions to copyright that make clear that no
>> purchase is needed before accessible copies are provided to qualified
>> recipients. The Authors Guild v. HathiTrust case is the*only *case ever
>> to construe Section 121 or to apply Section 107 to accessibility. If we
>> wanted to design the perfect case to prove that we can provide accessible
>> copies to students without making them buy inaccessible copies, we couldn’t
>> do much better than *HathiTrust. *In that case, the court considered
>> whether the University of Michigan could provide accessible copies of books
>> from the HathiTrust collection to students with print disabilities without
>> any payment or permission from the copyright holders. The court
>> said, categorically, yes. The recently-passed Marrakesh Treaty
>> implementation bill made a few modifications to Section 121, and all of
>> them were designed to expand accessibility. None of them added a purchase
>> requirement, which did not exist prior to Marrakesh. So we have a recent
>> case that is perfectly on point, and recent legislation that is also on our
>> side.
>>
>> Anyway, that’s a short version of the much more detailed arguments in the
>> white paper. I promise it’s not a tough read, and will reward your time and
>> attention.
>>
>> Best,
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mary,
>>
>> The student deserves to have the right version of the textbook, period.
>> If everyone else in the class, and the instructor, are using the 7th edition
>> then why are you telling your student with a disability that they can only
>> have the 6th? That is RIPE for a lawsuit filed by the student against
>> your institution.
>>
>> Get the edition the student needs, remediate as necessary. That is our
>> job, and we need to be doing our job.
>>
>> Ignore the people who have responded that your student doesn’t have to
>> show proof of ownership (note I did not say proof of purchase). That white
>> paper that is being tossed around covers LIBRARIES but does not cover DSOs
>> producing alternate format directly. This is still a very grey area, and it
>> is better to err on the side of caution until further clarification from
>> the courts or the federal government. A white paper is not law, it is
>> simply an opinion piece. I ask for proof of ownership from the student
>> (aka, show me your book). And I give students the version they are
>> requesting and have obtained. There are some publishers that require proof
>> of purchase before they provide files, which means I then do ask the
>> student for a receipt, which I heavily redact of any personal/identifying
>> information and provide to the publisher.
>>
>> *Susan Kelmer *
>> Alternate Format Production Program Manager
>> Disability Services
>> Division of Student Affairs
>> *T* 303 735 4836
>> *www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices
>> <http://www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices>*
>>
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>> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On
>> Behalf Of *Mary Popish
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2020 5:50 PM
>> *To:* athen-list at u.washington.edu
>> *Subject:* [Athen] Alternate Formats and Varying Editions of Textbooks
>>
>> Hello, everyone!
>>
>> I have a question about how different campuses manage alternate format
>> delivery for textbooks when the required edition is different from a
>> digital version that your office may already have from a previous year or
>> other student. For example, if your office has a digital version of the
>> sixth edition of a textbook and a student has purchased the seventh edition
>> but needs some remediation to make the book accessible digitally, what do
>> you do? Do you request the seventh edition from the publisher (or
>> Bookshare, or AccessText, or whatever your process is)? Do you check with
>> the student and the instructor and deliver the sixth edition if it would
>> still work for the class? What about copyright, since the student bought a
>> different edition of the book?
>>
>> We've been talking about this a lot in our office, and we haven't landed
>> on a great solution yet. I'd love to hear how other offices handle this
>> sort of thing.
>>
>> Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> *Mary Popish*
>> Adaptive Technology Specialist & Alternate Formats Coordinator
>> Disability Resource Center
>> Portland State University
>>
>> Phone: (503) 725-9119
>> Fax: (503) 725-4103
>> Email: drc at pdx.edu
>> URL: http://www.pdx.edu/drc
>> Pronouns: she / her / hers
>>
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